DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?

SDS

I know it should be common sense but just to verify can we get a Dev to let us know if Custom Leagues means Online Franchise is making a return ? @Victor_SDS @SDS_Jax @Pat_SDS @Adam_SDS @Clof_SDS @Collin_SDS @Bri9_SDS

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I'm sure they'll detail it in the stream, man.

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@LankyRyan said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

I'm sure they'll detail it in the stream, man.

It would just be nice to know if this means that sho I can pre order the game now instead of waiting to decide if I'm getting the game or not.

SDS

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

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@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

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@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Naw dude.. That's a straight up lie!! There are no rumors!

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@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Naw dude.. That's a straight up lie!! There are no rumors!

See that's the thing about vague information. Increases rumors which might, or might not be true, and I can tell you that those are 100% one if the rumors surrounding it along side it being a "watered down OFM".

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@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

You can format it in a way that nobody has the same roster/players. There are several basic rules that just about all OFM leagues follow and I'm sure this would become one of them if true.

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@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

You can format it in a way that nobody has the same roster/players. There are several basic rules that just about all OFM leagues follow and I'm sure this would become one of them if true.

The problem is you'd have no scouting no trades no players declining which would take the whole point of an online franchise league (key word FRANCHISE) pointless

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@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

You can format it in a way that nobody has the same roster/players. There are several basic rules that just about all OFM leagues follow and I'm sure this would become one of them if true.

The problem is you'd have no scouting no trades no players declining which would take the whole point of an online franchise league (key word FRANCHISE) pointless

Exactly

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@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

You can format it in a way that nobody has the same roster/players. There are several basic rules that just about all OFM leagues follow and I'm sure this would become one of them if true.

The problem is you'd have no scouting no trades no players declining which would take the whole point of an online franchise league (key word FRANCHISE) pointless

Understood BUT it's better than nothing... We've been playing OFM since 2016 ( almost 4 years ) and people are spent my guy.. If this gives us ANY sense of hope that they have something in store for NEXT GEN then I'm in.. Even if there's some sort of paywall! Guys may need to do without the fantasy for a year or so and just play with their favorite teams without the ownership aspect of it.. What if those MLB THE SHOW 21 launch title rumors are true? I'm pretty sure they've been working on the next generation of MLB THE SHOW for years which is probably one of the reasons they're looking to cash out with it on XBOX.. THATS A GOOD SIGN RIGHT THERE!! I'm just glad they even mentioned anything about a league and I'm grateful but I'm still not preordering until I find out what exactly this is.. Excruciating but necessary!!

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@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

You can format it in a way that nobody has the same roster/players. There are several basic rules that just about all OFM leagues follow and I'm sure this would become one of them if true.

The problem is you'd have no scouting no trades no players declining which would take the whole point of an online franchise league (key word FRANCHISE) pointless

Understood BUT it's better than nothing... We've been playing OFM since 2016 ( almost 4 years ) and people are spent my guy.. If this gives us ANY sense of hope that they have something in store for NEXT GEN then I'm in.. Even if there's some sort of paywall! Guys may need to do without the fantasy for a year or so and just play with their favorite teams without the ownership aspect of it.. What if those MLB THE SHOW 21 launch title rumors are true? I'm pretty sure they've been working on the next generation of MLB THE SHOW for years which is probably one of the reasons they're looking to cash out with it on XBOX.. THATS A GOOD SIGN RIGHT THERE!! I'm just glad they even mentioned anything about a league and I'm grateful but I'm still not preordering until I find out what exactly this is.. Excruciating but necessary!!

Yeah by all means let's just settle and never get OFM back.

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@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Nooch760 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Trevor-Story said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Rumor is that its DD based leagues. Set your DD teams and go through the motions.

Well that would be disappointing. Not really fun playing in a league with people playing with the same exact players as you have.

You can format it in a way that nobody has the same roster/players. There are several basic rules that just about all OFM leagues follow and I'm sure this would become one of them if true.

The problem is you'd have no scouting no trades no players declining which would take the whole point of an online franchise league (key word FRANCHISE) pointless

Understood BUT it's better than nothing... We've been playing OFM since 2016 ( almost 4 years ) and people are spent my guy.. If this gives us ANY sense of hope that they have something in store for NEXT GEN then I'm in.. Even if there's some sort of paywall! Guys may need to do without the fantasy for a year or so and just play with their favorite teams without the ownership aspect of it.. What if those MLB THE SHOW 21 launch title rumors are true? I'm pretty sure they've been working on the next generation of MLB THE SHOW for years which is probably one of the reasons they're looking to cash out with it on XBOX.. THATS A GOOD SIGN RIGHT THERE!! I'm just glad they even mentioned anything about a league and I'm grateful but I'm still not preordering until I find out what exactly this is.. Excruciating but necessary!!

Yeah by all means let's just settle and never get OFM back.

Don't know what you meant by this because I said exactly what I wanted to say.. Couldn't have been any clearer.. By all means? Wait.. Hold up!! You can be defensive and or think too hard about the situation at hand but what you really need to understand is the " length " of this conversation stretches beyond belief do to the fact that we have no idea what the devs have planned.. Next consoles are practically base model high-end PC's which games are developed under and there's plenty of technology ( current ) that may be in play here! Yes, we should all be optimistic but say that were settling only leans toward the " OLD " ground work Sony Sandiego has laid homie... Think about it, They had server issues for years and we knew that which is why ( so they say ) it was left out the code... Now, OFM was lacking compared to offline franchise and just about anybody who've ever spent countless hours playing the mode would tell that an complete, fresh, up to date overhaul was needed and needed now.. I'm sure they know they'd have to come with it and I'm also sure that they wouldn't waste resources on fulfilling that space in 20 when they have to move over to next gen.. That comment just sounds " hyperbolic/frantic " to me and I'd expect someone who hasn't played fresh baseball or more so today's MLB THE SHOW takes in a league setting for years to understand but you know what, if this is just a simple " here, play this for a year " type mode, I'll be more than grateful.. Don't know about you....

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Dang, this thread.
I get wanted OFM, but this all or nothing spin is weird,
Isn't it a start that they seem to be making progress towards that? 18 and 19 had nothing similar at all. Recognizing progress isn't the same as settling.

SDS

You're saying it's a step in the right direction and might lead to OFM coming back in next year's game. I disagree. It's likely going to be a tacked on mode to DD and I'm not interested in that.

Also this isn't progress. It's another step backwards, we already had OFM and lost it, until it's brought back there is no progress. I wouldn't be grateful for a washed down version of a game mode I enjoy

Granted we need to wait and see what the mode truly is. For all we know it could be OFM but I doubt that.

SDS

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

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@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

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@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

SDS

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

SDS

I think they would have said "On-line franchise" if it was actually a Franchise format. Especially in light of how disappointed many of us were when they removed it. You'd think they'd be excited to let us know that it's back. I am glad that there is a multi season option though.

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