DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?

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@Ballgame59 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

I think they would have said "On-line franchise" if it was actually a Franchise format. Especially in light of how disappointed many of us were when they removed it. You'd think they'd be excited to let us know that it's back. I am glad that there is a multi season option though.

So you mean to tell me you've never seen devs do away with a mode or gameplay feature then rebrand it a couple years later? Lmao.. You gotta be a pre-teen lol.. NBA 2K's MyLeague was called ONLINE ASSOCIATION MODE 4 years before it returned... Madden CFM was not all ways CONNECTED FRANCHISE! It's pretty obvious that they changed the name to give it a fresh take on the community that whines and cries about everything.. Not only that, there's more to it now! This was a genius idea! People who buy packs will now be able to experience what we've had for years.. The player count will go through the roof now and just wait until it hits the new XBOX!! Our mode is back better than ever.. Some people were born ungrateful so I leave it at that.. If you're one of the ones that felt left out 2 years in a row then you shouldn't have a [censored] thing to say about what it's called what it Intels! Just be thankful.
😞

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@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

Ok I'll bite. I much prefer civil conversation and sharing ideas and am not normally one to retaliate to put downs, but I feel that I'm being misrepresented here. The only reason I'm responding to your post directly is that you don't appear to be trolling, it just seems like a misunderstanding so that's cool.

@Dounte, in this here thread, on 25 January I stated that 'with the custom leagues we are offered in 20 this is the beginning of that (Online Franchise) rebuild' and that 'it will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental.'

Your response yesterday: Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Yesterday, in the thread " CREATED LEAGUES WITH FRIENDS " GOD PLEASE LET THIS BE OFM!!! you agreed with @eatyum's assessment (made 11 February) that created leagues with friends could be the start of bringing Online Franchise back and that it's good we are seeing progression towards what we had.

On the same day (yesterday) you disagree with my assessment, you agree with @eatyum's assessment that basically said the same thing two weeks later.

From your most recent response, it sounds like you're still convinced I'm a DD player. Please check my Universal Profile. Also most or all of my MLB The Show YouTube clips from the last five years are from Franchise, RTTS or M2O (like & subscribe if you enjoy). Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against DD players. But disappointingly I feel I have had to defend myself from your label 'guys like you'. You seem like a really nice person and your zest for Online Franchise is second to none. I'd hate for us not to get along because of a misunderstanding - I've been all for the return of OFM since it was removed.

Having said all that, if you still think I'm back-peddling, please point out the statement I made from which I am back-peddling.

Peace.

SDS

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

I have a feeling you're are going to be so disappointed come Thursday after the stream.

As Ballgame53 said, if they were bring back Online Franchise then they would label it Online Franchise because that would be appreciated by fans who have been waiting for it to return.

I am guessing you will see no minor leagues (they are not even an option if you choose DD teams over real teams). I will be surprised if there are anything resembling contracts. I will be surprised if there is anything done with player progression. For any of those things to be included they would need completely separate code bases for real team leagues vs DD team leagues.

SDS

@Dolenz said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

I have a feeling you're are going to be so disappointed come Thursday after the stream.

As Ballgame53 said, if they were bring back Online Franchise then they would label it Online Franchise because that would be appreciated by fans who have been waiting for it to return.

I am guessing you will see no minor leagues (they are not even an option if you choose DD teams over real teams). I will be surprised if there are anything resembling contracts. I will be surprised if there is anything done with player progression. For any of those things to be included they would need completely separate code bases for real team leagues vs DD team leagues.

First of all, I completely understood every incremental mumble from this guy so let's get that straight... Here are the facts: Everything you mentioned may or may not have been implemented in this year's game is well known... Most of already knew from the beginning that they would more than likely leave some things out due to " coding " and other issues PLUS there's NEXT GEN MLB THE SHOW being developed!! Take a look at the OS FORUM!! This is nothing new... Of course there's a chance that it could be bare-boned but I'm pretty confident that most people who continued running leagues on 17 would switch over in a hot second... My gripe with the other guy was merely his pessimistic attempt at not giving the mode a doubt.. I'm done with that because that bubble was bursted with that tweet! At the end of the day, ONLINE LEAGUES is OFM and whenever they decide to add all bells and whistles I'll be there.. Whatever we get during that stream will be much appreciated!! I'm pretty sure they're won't be any whining, crying and complaining coming from the loyal OFM guys! That I can tell you...

SDS

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Ballgame59 said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

I think they would have said "On-line franchise" if it was actually a Franchise format. Especially in light of how disappointed many of us were when they removed it. You'd think they'd be excited to let us know that it's back. I am glad that there is a multi season option though.

So you mean to tell me you've never seen devs do away with a mode or gameplay feature then rebrand it a couple years later? Lmao.. You gotta be a pre-teen lol.. NBA 2K's MyLeague was called ONLINE ASSOCIATION MODE 4 years before it returned... Madden CFM was not all ways CONNECTED FRANCHISE! It's pretty obvious that they changed the name to give it a fresh take on the community that whines and cries about everything.. Not only that, there's more to it now! This was a genius idea! People who buy packs will now be able to experience what we've had for years.. The player count will go through the roof now and just wait until it hits the new XBOX!! Our mode is back better than ever.. Some people were born ungrateful so I leave it at that.. If you're one of the ones that felt left out 2 years in a row then you shouldn't have a [censored] thing to say about what it's called what it Intels! Just be thankful.
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Nope....never played NBA or any 2K games. And actually, I'll be 52 in a few weeks .....But while that's entirely possible, I believe that they would't do "rebrand" for FULL CF until the next gen. Just my opinion. But this looks promising. https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/02/25/mlb-the-show-20-introduces-online-custom-leagues/

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@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

Called it.

SDS

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

Called it.

No you didn't lol.... You tried to get technical and landed outside the target zone! The mode is deeper than you think.. Just wait until Thursday! Yeah, it's fairly lean like we all thought with it being the last game of this generation but it's a way better start than we all predicted and you know it lol.. Stop it buddy! 🙂

SDS

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

You don't know for sure if it is truly back back. Probably closer to a seasons mode than a franchise mode.

SDS

@cvogsfashow said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

You don't know for sure if it is truly back back. Probably closer to a seasons mode than a franchise mode.
Don't know why I even entertain people on forums like this.... The sad thing about it is that they'll continue to argue their point when a blind pig could see the truth or history in all!

Again, it's just those that have no life whatsoever and those that feel some form of entitlement when it comes to how games should be developed! Those are the ones that kill games.. This generation of gaming sucked because companies listened to these idiots... But that's over with now.. The hardcore try harders reign superiority once again.. Lol!! Who has the last laugh now..

SDS

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@cvogsfashow said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

You don't know for sure if it is truly back back. Probably closer to a seasons mode than a franchise mode.
Don't know why I even entertain people on forums like this.... The sad thing about it is that they'll continue to argue their point when a blind pig could see the truth or history in all!

Again, it's just those that have no life whatsoever and those that feel some form of entitlement when it comes to how games should be developed! Those are the ones that kill games.. This generation of gaming sucked because companies listened to these idiots... But that's over with now.. The hardcore try harders reign superiority once again.. Lol!! Who has the last laugh now..

I think Dante needs to ease up on the Wheaties.

SDS

@LankyRyan said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@cvogsfashow said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

You don't know for sure if it is truly back back. Probably closer to a seasons mode than a franchise mode.
Don't know why I even entertain people on forums like this.... The sad thing about it is that they'll continue to argue their point when a blind pig could see the truth or history in all!

Again, it's just those that have no life whatsoever and those that feel some form of entitlement when it comes to how games should be developed! Those are the ones that kill games.. This generation of gaming sucked because companies listened to these idiots... But that's over with now.. The hardcore try harders reign superiority once again.. Lol!! Who has the last laugh now..

I think Dante needs to ease up on the Wheaties.
You probably need to keep my name out your mouth..

SDS
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@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@LankyRyan said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@cvogsfashow said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Dounte said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

@Red_Ted_is_back said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

You don't know for sure if it is truly back back. Probably closer to a seasons mode than a franchise mode.
Don't know why I even entertain people on forums like this.... The sad thing about it is that they'll continue to argue their point when a blind pig could see the truth or history in all!

Again, it's just those that have no life whatsoever and those that feel some form of entitlement when it comes to how games should be developed! Those are the ones that kill games.. This generation of gaming sucked because companies listened to these idiots... But that's over with now.. The hardcore try harders reign superiority once again.. Lol!! Who has the last laugh now..

I think Dante needs to ease up on the Wheaties.
You probably need to keep my name out your mouth..

This is the internet. Stop being a caricature of an angry human and people will stop saying your name. You're being way more aggro than anyone needs to be in a video game forum. Chill.

SDS

Wait!! So, online leagues are somewhat coming back?!

SDS

@CanoSMOOTH said in DOES CUSTOM LEAGUES MEAN ONLINE FRANCHISE ?:

Wait!! So, online leagues are somewhat coming back?!

Kind of. No FA, minor leagues, or development.

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In its previous form, it wasn't sustainable, so it was scrapped for 18. This is known. It would have needed to be rebuilt from scratch. The place to start is a platform that can be leveraged across multiple modes, that makes expanding each of those modes much more possible. With the custom leagues we are offered in 20 (whatever that will be) this is the beginning of that rebuild.

There's no point rebuilding OFM as its own standalone thing, it would require a massive amount of resources for limited (financial and games played) reward.

It will return, and in a tighter, leaner, more user-friendly, server-friendly and developer-friendly form. We just need to accept that it will be incremental. SDS will be keeping an eye on quantitative data (which game modes are played) and also qualitative feedback (forums) to make the decisions on how much is jammed into each increment. I'm guessing 21 is going to be the year we see something that resembles 'Online Franchise' again.

EDIT: Why incremental? Much easier to detect and fix problems when there's less things to test. Bed down the things that work in 20, add to it in 21. Rinse and repeat.

This what I'm talking about... As much sense as you TRIED to make ( merely an outside looking in DD fan with ill intent to discredit the ONLINE FRANCHISE crowd in order to make others believe that resources would be taken away and or the fans won't give the mode the time of day.. ) with this post, you failed... Miserably!! ONLINE FRANCHISE MODE has been rebranded and called " ONLINE LEAGUES " and I'd be willing to bet that they're will be more options than before.. NEXT GEN " ONLINE LEAGUES "??? Yeah, you can bet they'll be much much more to come as far as FRANCHISE goes.. Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!

Thanks for the eval, but I don’t play DD modes. Played some extra innings games in 15 and finished the original Conquest map in 17 but nothing since.

All I play now is Franchise, RTTS and M2O. I’m all for Online Franchise’s return, the only reasons I never played the mode previously were that I had a dodgy internet connection and the way it was setup was laborious. I discredit nobody. Well, on the old forum I discredited DD quite a bit, but now I discredit nobody. The sooner we can all live harmoniously without the us vs them mentality the sooner the game will progress for the benefit of all players.

So to quote a fellow non-DD user, ‘Sorry, but you sir were dead wrong!’

Yeah ok buddy.. Whatever you say.. You're clearly backtracking your statement but it's fine. Far from being stupid! ......

At the end of the day, IT'S BACK!!! I know where I stood from the day they released that letter back in 2017 and I've had many conversations with guys like your self who've said the same thing.. The ONLINE FRANCHISE COMMUNITY always knew that guys like you would all sit at one table and EAT YOUR WORDS!! Now look at you... Boom!!

You don't know for sure if it is truly back back. Probably closer to a seasons mode than a franchise mode.
Don't know why I even entertain people on forums like this.... The sad thing about it is that they'll continue to argue their point when a blind pig could see the truth or history in all!

Again, it's just those that have no life whatsoever and those that feel some form of entitlement when it comes to how games should be developed! Those are the ones that kill games.. This generation of gaming sucked because companies listened to these idiots... But that's over with now.. The hardcore try harders reign superiority once again.. Lol!! Who has the last laugh now..

I think Dante needs to ease up on the Wheaties.
You probably need to keep my name out your mouth..

You probably need to take something else out of your mouth.

Yep... You've pretty much summed it all up for majority of the GUMPS that post here

Lmao @ there NOT being an FANTASY DRAFT!! 😂 Kick rocks.. Don't get mad at me for it!😂

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