Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss

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@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

When I do this moment, it only seems to happen to Cabrera, Soto, and Suzuki: their BBE also seem to not make any sense, as in they will square up a ball in the zone for an infield fly. Do swing animations impact BBE?

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

I'm not saying it did happen, even once. And if it happened to me I would certainly have taken clips and screencaps to share.

One thing I will say is that quite often the hit feedback will say good/okay when the ball is smack in the middle of the PCI. In these instances the PCI analysis may even call it a 15. I have even had legitimate pop ups with such contact - so the hit feedback is certainly not always absolutely accurate.

I'm beginning to think it's like the checked swing mechanic, where the animations are actually irrelevant and subverted by perk RNG.

lol HOLD ON LET ME GET THE ALUMINUM WRAP TIME TO MAKE A HAT

To be fair, are you saying you have never seen the batter barely flinch his toe, without ever coming close to crossing the plate, being called a swing? Clearly the game is not determining whether a swing crossed the plate purely on the basis of the animation.

respectfully, and i mean that here - i don't remotely care about this game enough to be making such observations or criticisms

Fair enough, but if you don't care about the veracity of that statement, then why comment on the above post at all, implying that he was promoting some wild tinfoil hat theory? The above poster was essentially relating his own experiences with clippings (for which he truthfully has provided no evidence for) with a rather common observation on how broken check swing calls in this game are.

if we're going down that route - i commented because i believe half of you guys take this extremely far - way too far perhaps - in my view some of you should really have a look at yourselves, and find out what is truly important in life

SDS

Swinging through multiple pitches with good timing using zone didn't happen

Maybe if you are using directional, but if you're using zone and your pci was on it with good timing there is no chance you swung through a pitch, that is a straight up lie, sorry.

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@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

When I do this moment, it only seems to happen to Cabrera, Soto, and Suzuki: their BBE also seem to not make any sense, as in they will square up a ball in the zone for an infield fly. Do swing animations impact BBE?

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

I'm not saying it did happen, even once. And if it happened to me I would certainly have taken clips and screencaps to share.

One thing I will say is that quite often the hit feedback will say good/okay when the ball is smack in the middle of the PCI. In these instances the PCI analysis may even call it a 15. I have even had legitimate pop ups with such contact - so the hit feedback is certainly not always absolutely accurate.

I'm beginning to think it's like the checked swing mechanic, where the animations are actually irrelevant and subverted by perk RNG.

lol HOLD ON LET ME GET THE ALUMINUM WRAP TIME TO MAKE A HAT

To be fair, are you saying you have never seen the batter barely flinch his toe, without ever coming close to crossing the plate, being called a swing? Clearly the game is not determining whether a swing crossed the plate purely on the basis of the animation.

respectfully, and i mean that here - i don't remotely care about this game enough to be making such observations or criticisms

The check swing mechanic is a known quantity, where animations are rendered inconsequential.

There are also some known animation issues with fielders that override or disregard user input.

If I had been proactive, I would have thought to add screen caps: that being said, I'm genuinely curious if this is an issue.

SDS

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

Swinging through multiple pitches with good timing using zone didn't happen

Maybe if you are using directional, but if you're using zone and your pci was on it with good timing there is no chance you swung through a pitch, that is a straight up lie, sorry.

I have to admit I have seen this myself only a couple of times. I will try to get a screenshot next time but it's extremely rare.

Last time was Calhoun swinging at an inside sinker, timing said Good and PCI was on the ball using Zone. It seriously looked like I swung right through it, but I understand without a pic it didn't happen lol.

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@abbyspapa said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

Swinging through multiple pitches with good timing using zone didn't happen

Maybe if you are using directional, but if you're using zone and your pci was on it with good timing there is no chance you swung through a pitch, that is a straight up lie, sorry.

I have to admit I have seen this myself only a couple of times. I will try to get a screenshot next time but it's extremely rare.

Last time was Calhoun swinging at an inside sinker, timing said Good and PCI was on the ball using Zone. It seriously looked like I swung right through it, but I understand without a pic it didn't happen lol.

To that point, I have seen many instances of "just early/late" with good PCI position, in the zone, and no foul, yet wild swings with bad timing and PCI positions producing fouls.

My guess is that a component exists, which factors in to ultimate BBE results.

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@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

When I do this moment, it only seems to happen to Cabrera, Soto, and Suzuki: their BBE also seem to not make any sense, as in they will square up a ball in the zone for an infield fly. Do swing animations impact BBE?

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

I'm not saying it did happen, even once. And if it happened to me I would certainly have taken clips and screencaps to share.

One thing I will say is that quite often the hit feedback will say good/okay when the ball is smack in the middle of the PCI. In these instances the PCI analysis may even call it a 15. I have even had legitimate pop ups with such contact - so the hit feedback is certainly not always absolutely accurate.

I'm beginning to think it's like the checked swing mechanic, where the animations are actually irrelevant and subverted by perk RNG.

lol HOLD ON LET ME GET THE ALUMINUM WRAP TIME TO MAKE A HAT

To be fair, are you saying you have never seen the batter barely flinch his toe, without ever coming close to crossing the plate, being called a swing? Clearly the game is not determining whether a swing crossed the plate purely on the basis of the animation.

respectfully, and i mean that here - i don't remotely care about this game enough to be making such observations or criticisms

The check swing mechanic is a known quantity, where animations are rendered inconsequential.

There are also some known animation issues with fielders that override or disregard user input.

If I had been proactive, I would have thought to add screen caps: that being said, I'm genuinely curious if this is an issue.

right on mate i hope you find the answer you are looking for have a nice night over there

SDS

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@TheHungryHole said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

When I do this moment, it only seems to happen to Cabrera, Soto, and Suzuki: their BBE also seem to not make any sense, as in they will square up a ball in the zone for an infield fly. Do swing animations impact BBE?

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@SefarR said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@DanTheThriller said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

@skepple15 said in Another Typical, Garbage, Inexcusable Loss:

I have never, in 3 years of playing this game almost exclusively, ever, swung through a pitch that my pci has been on with good timing. Never.

It blew my mind: how can the bat be where the ball is and no make contact?

I'm halfway to uninstalling and canceling my preorder.

Didn't happen

I wouldn't say it so absolutely - however unlikely it may be.

For example, I have tons of clips from 2K where the basketball goes through players, referees and the backboard, seemingly becoming non-corporeal at times. But I would certainly want to see a clip of it as you must have reviewed this in slow-motion in the replay to verify that it actually happened?

I’ve seen the ball go through guys before in 2K I understand that but I’ve never seen someone use zone Hitting, put the pci on the ball with good timing and swing through a pitch, especially in this games where it’s almost impossible to strike people out as even too early/too late will sometimes make contact and very early/very late will make contact almost seemingly every time, there’s no way that with good timing with the pci on the ball it’s a swing and a miss. You know I ride with you a lot bro but this is one that just didn’t happen. Especially not 3 separate times.

I'm not saying it did happen, even once. And if it happened to me I would certainly have taken clips and screencaps to share.

One thing I will say is that quite often the hit feedback will say good/okay when the ball is smack in the middle of the PCI. In these instances the PCI analysis may even call it a 15. I have even had legitimate pop ups with such contact - so the hit feedback is certainly not always absolutely accurate.

I'm beginning to think it's like the checked swing mechanic, where the animations are actually irrelevant and subverted by perk RNG.

lol HOLD ON LET ME GET THE ALUMINUM WRAP TIME TO MAKE A HAT

To be fair, are you saying you have never seen the batter barely flinch his toe, without ever coming close to crossing the plate, being called a swing? Clearly the game is not determining whether a swing crossed the plate purely on the basis of the animation.

respectfully, and i mean that here - i don't remotely care about this game enough to be making such observations or criticisms

The check swing mechanic is a known quantity, where animations are rendered inconsequential.

There are also some known animation issues with fielders that override or disregard user input.

If I had been proactive, I would have thought to add screen caps: that being said, I'm genuinely curious if this is an issue.

right on mate i hope you find the answer you are looking for have a nice night over there

I asked the devs for a clarification, and they sent me a photo of the Trop without power.

SDS

Made it 10-9, 0 outs, 3 good/good outs, in a row, including a foul to the catcher by Soto lol.

Made it 10-8, 1 on, 0 outs, same hard luck outs.

Finally, on my last, frustrated attempt, I tied it, burned out Avilan, and hit a bomb with Zim...that Lagares brought back from over the wall.

Up comes Suzuki who had already gotten blown away by fastballs with the go-ahead runner on in the 9th: late on fastball down the middle (miss), late on a fastball down the middle (miss), and late on fastball outside (BOMB TO LEFT!?!?).

I don't understand it; I'm just glad it's over lol.

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