I think they nerfed SP stamina too much

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All of the pitchers that I use have 99 stamina or higher.(Kluber, Seaaver, Maddux, Newhouser all have well over 100 with presitge Paxton at 99)One game I threw only 2 2/3 innings with paxton before he got "a concussion" and had to leave only throwing 39 pitches, but after the game, his energy was totally depleted(to the first E in Energy), even though he was at full stamina before the game. A few games later Kluber didn't have full energy(at the y) and I pitched 18 pitches (2 innings) before the guy quit, but his energy went down to the N. I think they need to buff SP a little bit more, but not to the point where it originally was.
Thoughts?

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They're forcing you to use 5 starters. Leave it as it it.

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@Ikasnu said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

They're forcing you to use 5 starters. Leave it as it it.

Yeah but the amount of energy your pitchers loose is way too much especially for the examples I provided.

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@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Ikasnu said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

They're forcing you to use 5 starters. Leave it as it it.

Yeah but the amount of energy your pitchers loose is way too much especially for the examples I provided.

Yep, if your opponent quits you never get to use that starter lol. I wanted to use sale but my opponent quit so I couldn’t use him

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They basically made it if a guy starts, he has to go at least 3 games before you can start him again. 4 if you want to get to full energy.

Looks fine to me

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way better than the dice roll last year. spend 750k on sale and not use him for 15 straight games

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It actually makes sense from a realism standpoint. If a pitcher is set to throw tonight, he is on a schedule where he is throwing on certain days, doing bullpens etc. Plus he throws a good amount pregame tonight. If they get downpours in the second inning and the game is called he is still pretty taxed. Not as much as if he threw 100 pitches but there is almost no way a team is going to run him back out there before his next scheduled start unless it is a stretch run and they have a shot at postseason. That’s basically what is happening here now. We can set our rotation which is better than last years randomness but we can’t throw kluber for 2-3 innings every game now.

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@Washed__AF said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

They basically made it if a guy starts, he has to go at least 3 games before you can start him again. 4 if you want to get to full energy.

Looks fine to me

Even if the guy you play quits and your pitcher throws no pitches? Ummm, I don't think so.

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@pfcorporate said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

It actually makes sense from a realism standpoint. If a pitcher is set to throw tonight, he is on a schedule where he is throwing on certain days, doing bullpens etc. Plus he throws a good amount pregame tonight. If they get downpours in the second inning and the game is called he is still pretty taxed. Not as much as if he threw 100 pitches but there is almost no way a team is going to run him back out there before his next scheduled start unless it is a stretch run and they have a shot at postseason. That’s basically what is happening here now. We can set our rotation which is better than last years randomness but we can’t throw kluber for 2-3 innings every game now.

It's a video game buddy. If you watch the Trevor Bauer vlogs on momentum, you saw that he was scheduled to pitch and the game got postponed 8 minutes before the start, so he was all warmed up with his pregame routine, but his start got postponed to the next day and he threw a complete game (even though it was 7 innings due to the new rule changes, but he still threw over 100 pitches) So, pitchers shouldn't loose an abundance of stamina.

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@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Washed__AF said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

They basically made it if a guy starts, he has to go at least 3 games before you can start him again. 4 if you want to get to full energy.

Looks fine to me

Even if the guy you play quits and your pitcher throws no pitches? Ummm, I don't think so.

The problem is that there’s more people who quit early than you think. It was a big reason why Kluber was pitching pretty much every game - opponents would quit early against him and he would always have good enough energy to start again.

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@Original_Quad said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Washed__AF said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

They basically made it if a guy starts, he has to go at least 3 games before you can start him again. 4 if you want to get to full energy.

Looks fine to me

Even if the guy you play quits and your pitcher throws no pitches? Ummm, I don't think so.

The problem is that there’s more people who quit early than you think. It was a big reason why Kluber was pitching pretty much every game - opponents would quit early against him and he would always have good enough energy to start again.

okay so? you should be able to use your pitcher the next game if someone quits... I understand how many people quit super early, so that's why I think it's stupid that your pitcher looses so much stamina for an early quit. And plus, Kluber isn't that hard to hit.

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@Ryan_2713 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

way better than the dice roll last year. spend 750k on sale and not use him for 15 straight games

It is better than rolling the dice, but if someone quits whenever they face sale, it's no better because then you'll never be able to use him.

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Idk, I’ll take a W and the prestige stats if it means my starter getting drained from only pitching 3 innings. Makes us have to build a complete rotation and have a good bullpen unlike prior to this update.

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I can see being bothered that you can't use your SP if he gets injured or your opponent quits, but I do like the new stamina. 4 and 5 starters are now relevant, as is having a good pen.

I don't think they could tweak the settings to get the stamina any better than it is now.

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@wingspan1985 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

I can see being bothered that you can't use your SP if he gets injured or your opponent quits, but I do like the new stamina. 4 and 5 starters are now relevant, as is having a good pen.

I don't think they could tweak the settings to get the stamina any better than it is now.

I mean my 4 and 5 starters were relevant anyways before the patch, and I didn't use starter out of my bullpen unless the game went into extras

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@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Washed__AF said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

They basically made it if a guy starts, he has to go at least 3 games before you can start him again. 4 if you want to get to full energy.

Looks fine to me

Even if the guy you play quits and your pitcher throws no pitches? Ummm, I don't think so.

Doesn't bother me because you get the win, and in RS that's all that matters.

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@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Ryan_2713 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

way better than the dice roll last year. spend 750k on sale and not use him for 15 straight games

It is better than rolling the dice, but if someone quits whenever they face sale, it's no better because then you'll never be able to use him.

But you would be winning every game you use him, and your bullpen would keep getting rested. I would be happy with a starter having an 8-0 record with 10 innings pitched... if you just want to pitch with him without worrying about winning then just play the comp.

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@pbake12 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Ryan_2713 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

way better than the dice roll last year. spend 750k on sale and not use him for 15 straight games

It is better than rolling the dice, but if someone quits whenever they face sale, it's no better because then you'll never be able to use him.

But you would be winning every game you use him, and your bullpen would keep getting rested. I would be happy with a starter having an 8-0 record with 10 innings pitched... if you just want to pitch with him without worrying about winning then just play the comp.

players play differently when facing the computer. The only test to show how good a card is by playing RS

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@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@pbake12 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@dingers4days14 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

@Ryan_2713 said in I think they nerfed SP stamina too much:

way better than the dice roll last year. spend 750k on sale and not use him for 15 straight games

It is better than rolling the dice, but if someone quits whenever they face sale, it's no better because then you'll never be able to use him.

But you would be winning every game you use him, and your bullpen would keep getting rested. I would be happy with a starter having an 8-0 record with 10 innings pitched... if you just want to pitch with him without worrying about winning then just play the comp.

players play differently when facing the computer. The only test to show how good a card is by playing RS

Fine, but if you are winning every game with him doesn’t that mean he’s good for your team? Regardless of how many innings he pitches.

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Personally, I think this is the best fix to the game all year. Makes your entire pitching rotation relevant and your relievers mean so much more as well. Now reliever stamina regen needs addressed.

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