Why give games to newbies

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Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.

Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.

When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.

Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?

Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?

I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.

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Dynamite drop-in, Monte. That broadcast school has really paid off.

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It’s only cheating one customer at a time. The other guy is fine with winning.

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I agree: it's gotten completely out of hand.

https://scores.nbcsports.com/mlb/recap.asp?g=400817115&final=true

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@XxDeathReyxX said in Why give games to newbies:

It’s only cheating one customer at a time. The other guy is fine with winning.

Does that mean 50% get cheated and 50% don't? Guess there is a point there.

Let's not call it cheating then....let's just call it SDS isn't capable of creating a sports simulation so they've created a randomized MLB animation generator that intentionally weighs and distributes wins/losses based on some "study/analysis" they've done that best keeps the majority immersed.

And let's call this forum much the same. Bunch of posts created to manipulate folks into chasing challenges, cards, etc. Anything to create the illusion that this game is a competition.

And, that's fine. I don't blame the marketing team for that. Floating that concept to the gullible keeps them coming back and buying the game.

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@eelnirad_anglo said

When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.

Agree with first sentence, completely disagree with second. In MLB, the worst team is still going to win 50 games a season.

I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.

I didn’t check (on phone) but it sounds like you may be new to the forum? If anything the volume of posts on this forum over the past couple of years claiming balancing outcomes have the opposite effect of the forum creating false illusion. Rest assured, many people here feel your pain.

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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:

Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.

Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.

When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.

Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?

Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?

I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.

What makes you think you are a better player and lose most of the time? Because personally my opinon of course, I dont think you are the better player very much.

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I feel like everyone on here who repeatedly complains about RNG are people who are average at the game but think they should be at the #1 spot. Sorry dude, you're just not as good as you think you are.

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OP doesn’t realize that the same names show up on top of the leaderboards year after year. By his logic, they must be terrible at the game if it lets them win all the time 🤦♂

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It's working in your favor just as much as against you. Nobody ever complains they win games that swung in their favor for no reason... because when it helps you, it's your skill. There's definitely some type of manipulation in this game, but it's clear to me it works both ways. It doesn't prevent you from wins... it only makes it more challenging. If it only prevents wins to good players, why are the same guys always at the top? Is it because they get free wins because they are TERRIBLE? True story... if your losing to terrible players consistently, you aren't very good.... because I'm not very good and I can overcome RNG versus a terrible player. I always laugh at the guys who believe the game is only out to get them, because of their high skill level.

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There is no such thing as RNG

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If only user input mattered this would be a really, really boring game. There would be almost no difference from one diamond card to the next, one challenge to the next, etc. The ‘RNG’, or whatever it really is, is the reason this game is playable for more than a few minutes. Nobody promised you an ultra competitive sim even though for some reason you expected one.

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It seems to me that there's some type of momentum meter, we just can't see it. I have some hope after a game I just played against a guy ranked in the 800's (I was 650ish). Obviously he came down to my level and should have shelled me. He didn't. we both 2 hit eachother tied up 1-1 going into the later innings, I ended pinch hitting Ruth and getting a single and hitting a homer with trout to go up 3-1. shut him down in the 8th... And then, he couldn't miss... he hit a solo shot I end up giving up the game winning homer on an inside edge pitch with a fresh gagne out of the pen. After he got the initial HR I knew it was over, it seem like that just loads the momentum meter. I got 2 more outs, even threw out a guy trying to stretch to 3rd off a single and I hoped that would kill momentum... but nope.

With that said, I just played a guy who'll likely make hall of fame and while I wouldn't say I dominated him I feel like I had the edge in play, perhaps he just managed whatever the game does to influence outcomes better. I really do kind of feel like there's a secret here, and some guys have figured it out, as stupid as it sounds.

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@Hikes83 said in Why give games to newbies:

OP doesn’t realize that the same names show up on top of the leaderboards year after year. By his logic, they must be terrible at the game if it lets them win all the time 🤦♂

Same people with the same internet year after year. Implement ping based match making and pitching_rebel doesn't sniff 200-20 or whatever that ridiculous [censored] clubbing baby seals record is. He is playing slow pitch softball. His input actually matters. He would more than likely still be a good player but 95 would actually look like 95 instead of 85 to him. Could he adjust to the faster pitching? Somebody else would actually be #1. No, not me but someone would take his spot guaranteed.

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@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Why give games to newbies:

@Hikes83 said in Why give games to newbies:

OP doesn’t realize that the same names show up on top of the leaderboards year after year. By his logic, they must be terrible at the game if it lets them win all the time 🤦♂

Same people with the same internet year after year. Implement ping based match making and pitching_rebel doesn't sniff 200-20 or whatever that ridiculous [censored] clubbing baby seals record is. He is playing slow pitch softball. His input actually matters. He would more than likely still be a good player but 95 would actually look like 95 instead of 85 to him. Could he adjust to the faster pitching? Somebody else would actually be #1. No, not me but someone would take his spot guaranteed.

I've watched rebels streams and in no way does his pitches coming in look like slow motion like you claim ALL THE TIME. I've watched numerous good players and then other players and their pitch speeds are very similar. Don't you get tired of posting the same nonsense year after year? Why do you even stay?

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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:

Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.

Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.

When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.

Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?

Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?

I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.

Can you please re-write this into a 500 word essay - I will grade you once its submitted thanks mate

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@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why give games to newbies:

There is no such thing as RNG

There absolutely is, every video game ever made has rng somewhere. Now believing it's some grand conspiracy to keep good players down is another discussion.

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@maskedgrappler said in Why give games to newbies:

@BalsamicArrow88 said in Why give games to newbies:

There is no such thing as RNG

There absolutely is, every video game ever made has rng somewhere. Now believing it's some grand conspiracy to keep good players down is another discussion.

Original marios never had rng. Same game every single time.

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@PScrabro said in Why give games to newbies:

It's working in your favor just as much as against you. Nobody ever complains they win games that swung in their favor for no reason... because when it helps you, it's your skill. There's definitely some type of manipulation in this game, but it's clear to me it works both ways. It doesn't prevent you from wins... it only makes it more challenging. If it only prevents wins to good players, why are the same guys always at the top? Is it because they get free wins because they are TERRIBLE? True story... if your losing to terrible players consistently, you aren't very good.... because I'm not very good and I can overcome RNG versus a terrible player. I always laugh at the guys who believe the game is only out to get them, because of their high skill level.

What you just wrote is probably correct. I win as much as I lose. Perhaps a little above .500. But, letting the game dictate whose turn it is to win isn't fun is it?

I mean, for argument sake, let's say the code steers the wins/losses, but attempts to create parity. Where is the fun in that?

The attraction of this game, any game as far as that goes, is the satisfaction of knowing you won/lost because you're better/worse.

Not because the software is working behind the scenes to create an animation that rewards some games...screws you other games.

IF you're worse and need to work on things you do that...spend your hours..get better. In real life you are rewarded with practice and time spent. But, not in this game and it's horribly frustrating.

That's not what competition is about.

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@TheHungryHole said in Why give games to newbies:

@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:

Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.

Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.

When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.

Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?

Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?

I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.

Can you please re-write this into a 500 word essay - I will grade you once its submitted thanks mate

If you answer enuf folks with that stupid fruckin sarcasm (which is obviously your style)...you'll have accumulated enuf sentences to have created your own essay as$wipe.

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