Arm Strength

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I would like to know what data is being used to determine arm strength. First you had the comical underrating of Mookie Betts arm, then I look at Tim Anderson's rating and noticed his arm strength is in the 50's. The 50's? You would have had to never see him play ever to come up with that number. He has a cannon. There are numerous other examples as well. But this one stood out to me as it is absurd.

EXAMPLE: https://youtu.be/FbnY207TSP4

Hes's one of the more popular players in the league!

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Its a 3 year average and that play was 3 years ago. Find a more recent example lmao

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I can't find any lists that showcase an average mph per season, only thing I did find was a fangraphs advanced metric called "Arm".

Now I'm not sure what all goes into calculating this, also this is just OFers

Laureano 8.8
Acuña 6.4
Leury Garcia 5.6
Mookie 5.1
Puig 4.9

So if you base it off that (2019 season btw) Laureano should be the only 99 ARM LS card. Acuña should be low 90s, and everyone else listed there should be upper 80s.

Edit: actually I found out I can select multiple years. From 2017 to 2019 Mookie leads with a 17.2. Worth noting, 3 year average, take 17/3 and you get an average of 5.33 rating per year. Laureano recorded an 8.8 in one season.

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@Ikasnu said in Arm Strength:

I can't find any lists that showcase an average mph per season, only thing I did find was a fangraphs advanced metric called "Arm".

Now I'm not sure what all goes into calculating this, also this is just OFers

Laureano 8.8
Acuña 6.4
Leury Garcia 5.6
Mookie 5.1
Puig 4.9

So if you base it off that (2019 season btw) Laureano should be the only 99 ARM LS card. Acuña should be low 90s, and everyone else listed there should be upper 80s.

Edit: actually I found out I can select multiple years. From 2017 to 2019 Mookie leads with a 17.2. Worth noting, 3 year average, take 17/3 and you get an average of 5.33 rating per year. Laureano recorded an 8.8 in one season.

And Leury Garcia also has a weak arm in the game. It feels like the ratings are sort of random

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@Ikasnu said in Arm Strength:

I can't find any lists that showcase an average mph per season, only thing I did find was a fangraphs advanced metric called "Arm".

Now I'm not sure what all goes into calculating this, also this is just OFers

Laureano 8.8
Acuña 6.4
Leury Garcia 5.6
Mookie 5.1
Puig 4.9

So if you base it off that (2019 season btw) Laureano should be the only 99 ARM LS card. Acuña should be low 90s, and everyone else listed there should be upper 80s.

Edit: actually I found out I can select multiple years. From 2017 to 2019 Mookie leads with a 17.2. Worth noting, 3 year average, take 17/3 and you get an average of 5.33 rating per year. Laureano recorded an 8.8 in one season.

Yeah there aren't many stats it seems for arm strength. Example - Nelson Cruz has played all of 54 innings in 3 years but has a 90 arm strength. I think part of it is SDS says this guy is going to be a whatever rating, what do we put in to make him that? Doesn't matter if it makes sense. Aristides Aquino had one of the fastest throws from RF last year but had a low arm strength (I want to say high 60's) last year but it's 99 this year. They're very slow in updating this stat it seems.

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@the_dragon1912 said in Arm Strength:

Its a 3 year average and that play was 3 years ago. Find a more recent example lmao

This is a joke right? Because 3 years ago he was 24, and hasn't lost any arm strength. If anything, it has gotten stronger

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If they ever put Shawon Dunston in the game, he should have a 125 arm strength. I'm a reds fan but that dude had a flat out cannon for an arm.

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https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/video/anderson-s-superb-defensive-play
This is from last year, I think it’s safe to say fielding in the 50s-60s isn’t accurate.
I don’t want watch the white Sox much but I imagine he’s not fumbling grounders and botching double plays routinely. He’s an 80 overall and at 1.1k. That’s a sin the way he’s playing this year.. but a great investment.

Edit: 2 seconds later I read a piece how he can struggle with routine plays sometimes.. lol. Still 50s seems disrespectful.

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@baboonishace said in Arm Strength:

If they ever put Shawon Duston in the game, he should have a 125 arm strength. I'm a reds fan but that dude had a flat out cannon for an arm.

Or a Jose Guillen. I really feel like they should implement a statcast outfielder throw velocity highlight. Would force them to make the arm strength more accurate

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@MrGamebred said in Arm Strength:

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/video/anderson-s-superb-defensive-play
This is from last year, I think it’s safe to say fielding in the 50s-60s isn’t accurate.
I don’t want watch the white Sox much but I imagine he’s not fumbling grounders and botching double plays routinely. He’s an 80 overall and at 1.1k. That’s a sin the way he’s playing this year.. but a great investment.

Edit: 2 seconds later I read a piece how he can struggle with routine plays sometimes.. lol. Still 50s seems disrespectful.

Really most of his defensive miscues are air mailed throws. His fielding should be around 75. Arm 90. Accuracy about 45. boots a few balls, but also makes spectacular plays with the glove

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I remember at the beginning of the year last year in MLB19 Acura’s arm was a 50. But then after making some strong throws in real life it got upgraded to I think a 78, then a 90+ whatever it finished at last year. I also think StatCast info helps to adjust their ratings... As there were some StatCast videos of Acura’s arm... so if u find any statcast data on Anderson’s arm that would show them!

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I think they said for live series cards 60 was the mlb avg for stats.

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@gutpunch411 said in Arm Strength:

I think they said for live series cards 60 was the mlb avg for stats.

His arm is well above average

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@TheGreedyG103 said in Arm Strength:

I would like to know what data is being used to determine arm strength. First you had the comical underrating of Mookie Betts arm, then I look at Tim Anderson's rating and noticed his arm strength is in the 50's. The 50's? You would have had to never see him play ever to come up with that number. He has a cannon. There are numerous other examples as well. But this one stood out to me as it is absurd.

EXAMPLE: https://youtu.be/FbnY207TSP4

Hes's one of the more popular players in the league!

What does popularity have to do with this?

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@PhatWhiteOwl said in Arm Strength:

@TheGreedyG103 said in Arm Strength:

I would like to know what data is being used to determine arm strength. First you had the comical underrating of Mookie Betts arm, then I look at Tim Anderson's rating and noticed his arm strength is in the 50's. The 50's? You would have had to never see him play ever to come up with that number. He has a cannon. There are numerous other examples as well. But this one stood out to me as it is absurd.

EXAMPLE: https://youtu.be/FbnY207TSP4

Hes's one of the more popular players in the league!

What does popularity have to do with this?

By him being popular within the world of baseball and spoken about oftenly, I'd figure his strengths and weaknesses would be known by people who develop a simulation on major league baseball. As I assume they watch a lot of baseball. Or would hope so. I'm skeptical at times.

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I wish all attribute went to 125 to show how much better they are, like Rickeys running. Ozzies fielding, arm is another.

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@baboonishace said in Arm Strength:

If they ever put Shawon Dunston in the game, he should have a 125 arm strength. I'm a reds fan but that dude had a flat out cannon for an arm.

125 arm strength and a 20 arm accuracy....man Grace saved a lot of bad throws from him.

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@nflman2033 said in Arm Strength:

I wish all attribute went to 125 to show how much better they are, like Rickeys running. Ozzies fielding, arm is another.

100% agree

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@TheGreedyG103 said in Arm Strength:

@PhatWhiteOwl said in Arm Strength:

@TheGreedyG103 said in Arm Strength:

I would like to know what data is being used to determine arm strength. First you had the comical underrating of Mookie Betts arm, then I look at Tim Anderson's rating and noticed his arm strength is in the 50's. The 50's? You would have had to never see him play ever to come up with that number. He has a cannon. There are numerous other examples as well. But this one stood out to me as it is absurd.

EXAMPLE: https://youtu.be/FbnY207TSP4

Hes's one of the more popular players in the league!

What does popularity have to do with this?

By him being popular within the world of baseball and spoken about oftenly, I'd figure his strengths and weaknesses would be known by people who develop a simulation on major league baseball. As I assume they watch a lot of baseball. Or would hope so. I'm skeptical at times.

You know so much more than them. They should hire you.

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@PhatWhiteOwl said in Arm Strength:

@TheGreedyG103 said in Arm Strength:

@PhatWhiteOwl said in Arm Strength:

@TheGreedyG103 said in Arm Strength:

I would like to know what data is being used to determine arm strength. First you had the comical underrating of Mookie Betts arm, then I look at Tim Anderson's rating and noticed his arm strength is in the 50's. The 50's? You would have had to never see him play ever to come up with that number. He has a cannon. There are numerous other examples as well. But this one stood out to me as it is absurd.

EXAMPLE: https://youtu.be/FbnY207TSP4

Hes's one of the more popular players in the league!

What does popularity have to do with this?

By him being popular within the world of baseball and spoken about oftenly, I'd figure his strengths and weaknesses would be known by people who develop a simulation on major league baseball. As I assume they watch a lot of baseball. Or would hope so. I'm skeptical at times.

You know so much more than them. They should hire you.

I can sense your sarcasm. But I believe I do know more about baseball. A lot of us on here do as evidenced by the product put out. And you don't have to take a sarcastic tone with me. If your opinion differs that's fine, but why waste the energy being negative towards me?

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