Moments in The Show

Will Moments return in MLB 20. Yes or no?
Did you like moments in MLB 19. Yes or no?

  1. I hope so
  2. Yes.
  1. Definitely
  2. Yes, much better than the endless Immortal grind.
  1. 100%
  2. I loved them
  1. I lean no since no screen mentions them.
  2. No. They were pointless, non-immersive, etc. And so repetitive. "Hit a homer with X player." They didn't even show the player celebrating with the team after hitting the home run. The story-line ones would have been cool if they worked properly.

@ag1982 said in Moments in The Show:

  1. I lean no since no screen mentions them.
  2. No. They were pointless, non-immersive, etc. And so repetitive. "Hit a homer with X player." They didn't even show the player celebrating with the team after hitting the home run. The story-line ones would have been cool if they worked properly.

They haven’t shown the DD screens ? And the moments were 100 times better than playing with one player or team for 500 innings I can’t believe some of y’all actually like the old way better.

@NicholasHowardT5 said in Moments in The Show:

@ag1982 said in Moments in The Show:

  1. I lean no since no screen mentions them.
  2. No. They were pointless, non-immersive, etc. And so repetitive. "Hit a homer with X player." They didn't even show the player celebrating with the team after hitting the home run. The story-line ones would have been cool if they worked properly.

They haven’t shown the DD screens ? And the moments were 100 times better than playing with one player or team for 500 innings I can’t believe some of y’all actually like the old way better.

Not every grind was 500 innnings. And you still had to do that same thing with the team for dailies or team affinity but you didn't even get credit for that doing moments.

@NicholasHowardT5 said in Moments in The Show:

They haven’t shown the DD screens ? And the moments were 100 times better than playing with one player or team for 500 innings I can’t believe some of y’all actually like the old way better.

As I recall, ag1982 leans heavily toward playing offline. I'm the same way.

The Missions of 17 and 18 were at least interesting objectives that we could accomplish organically in the course of games. I understand how online players would much favour the XP rewards path + Moments, but us offline players were left with so little to do it wasn't worth it. Moments are walled-off objectives that were unfulfilling. Conquest is nothing but three-inning road games. Without the interesting and challenging missions, there's no entertainment to be had from Play vs. CPU.

  1. hope not
  2. hated them (repititive and waste of time - IMHO)
  1. I hope not
  2. I mostly did not like them.

There was good and bad with them.
I wished they would have allowed us to control our teammates when the ball is in play. I can't tell you how many times I would have to restart a moment because an outfielder took a bad angle or a baserunner played it safe and did not advance.
(And that would have made the get X number of strikeout missions easier, since I would not take an easy out at first in order to face another batter).

I loved the missions in 18. I thought they were excellent. I was always juggling lineups and enjoyed having somwthing to work towards.
Was it perfect? No.
Racking up 250 holds with lefties for example was too grindy. And now with the 3 batter minimum, racking up holds will be harder.
Please don't mention souviners, they were atrocious and do not belong in the game. That aspect of 18 should never retrun. I am only talking about the stat accumilation and single game missions in 18.

I think they should have a mix of both. Meaning give us some stat grinding missions and instead of giving us single game missions like the Chipper Jones (3 H, 3 R, 3 XBH and 3 RBI in 18) allow those to be replaced with moments.
I think this satisfies the stat grinders and online guys that want to get moments done ASAP so they can jump back into BR or ranked seasons.

Moments in 2020 going to be like:

Play as Yu Darvish in game 7 of the 2017 world series and try to make it to the 2nd inning.

Play as Jose Altuve and recreate his his magical 2019 ALCS "Don't RIP my shirt off" moment with a walk off homer.

Play as Mike Clevinger against the 2020 Astros without recording more than 5 HBPs.

@omegaminus_sk said in Moments in The Show:

@NicholasHowardT5 said in Moments in The Show:

They haven’t shown the DD screens ? And the moments were 100 times better than playing with one player or team for 500 innings I can’t believe some of y’all actually like the old way better.

As I recall, ag1982 leans heavily toward playing offline. I'm the same way.

The Missions of 17 and 18 were at least interesting objectives that we could accomplish organically in the course of games. I understand how online players would much favour the XP rewards path + Moments, but us offline players were left with so little to do it wasn't worth it. Moments are walled-off objectives that were unfulfilling. Conquest is nothing but three-inning road games. Without the interesting and challenging missions, there's no entertainment to be had from Play vs. CPU.

I definitely get what your saying about offline not having as much to do. I don't want this coming off in a bad way or anything but Diamond Dynasty is made to be an online mode and majority of the time you spend playing that game mode should be online versus others not the CPU.

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

I definitely get what your saying about offline not having as much to do. I don't want this coming off in a bad way or anything but Diamond Dynasty is made to be an online mode and majority of the time you spend playing that game mode should be online versus others not the CPU.

I understand that's the way they seem to have intended to position it, but I just don't see why this interesting and entertaining card-collecting part of the game should be restricted to online multiplayer. I'm far more interested in it as a way of acquiring and progressing a team than being a GM in Franchise mode, but the decision to target it to online players only seems needless and arbitrary.

@omegaminus_sk said in Moments in The Show:

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

I definitely get what your saying about offline not having as much to do. I don't want this coming off in a bad way or anything but Diamond Dynasty is made to be an online mode and majority of the time you spend playing that game mode should be online versus others not the CPU.

I understand that's the way they seem to have intended to position it, but I just don't see why this interesting and entertaining card-collecting part of the game should be restricted to online multiplayer. I'm far more interested in it as a way of acquiring and progressing a team than being a GM in Franchise mode, but the decision to target it to online players only seems needless and arbitrary.

Here is what you can do offline in DD:

  1. Play versus CPU MLB Teams
  2. Play versus other users DD teams controlled by CPU
  3. Conquest - I believe there is more than 10 maps and all are re-playable.
  4. Moments - We all already know there are a ton of them.

Here is what you can do Online in DD:

  1. Ranked Seasons
  2. Battle Royale
  3. Events (when they have them running)
  4. Play versus a Friend

You literally have just as much to do offline as you do online, yet this is suppose to be an online mode. Hopefully Custom Leagues actually lets you play full seasons and you can then select your DD team to run a season with versus CPU, I think that would make all parties happy.

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

Here is what you can do offline in DD:

Play versus CPU MLB Teams
Play versus other users DD teams controlled by CPU
Conquest - I believe there is more than 10 maps and all are re-playable.
Moments - We all already know there are a ton of them.

The first and second items have no inherent purpose. You play a game and... that's it. there's no reward, no greater structure for them to be a part of, no immediate reason to play them at all. The games are about as meaningful as the games of Ice Hockey I played on the Atari 2600 in the mid-80s. I need better than that in this day and age.

Conquest has some framework to it beyond single meaningless games, but like I said, it's nothing but three-inning road games. It's the only part of offline DD that has any structure at all, and it gives me no use for my home uniforms or stadium cards.

The overwhelming majority of moments (over 80%, last I checked) don't involve my DD team. I have no interest in those. Even the ones that do use it don't count toward Team Affinity or Daily Mission innings (because "Moments is not Diamond Dynasty") in another baffling, arbitrary decision.

The list of online things-to-do contains so much more in terms of meaningfulness and rewards than the offline list that they're not comparable.

Hopefully Custom Leagues actually lets you play full seasons and you can then select your DD team to run a season with versus CPU, I think that would make all parties happy.

This I agree with completely.

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

@omegaminus_sk said in Moments in The Show:

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

I definitely get what your saying about offline not having as much to do. I don't want this coming off in a bad way or anything but Diamond Dynasty is made to be an online mode and majority of the time you spend playing that game mode should be online versus others not the CPU.

I understand that's the way they seem to have intended to position it, but I just don't see why this interesting and entertaining card-collecting part of the game should be restricted to online multiplayer. I'm far more interested in it as a way of acquiring and progressing a team than being a GM in Franchise mode, but the decision to target it to online players only seems needless and arbitrary.

Here is what you can do offline in DD:

  1. Play versus CPU MLB Teams
  2. Play versus other users DD teams controlled by CPU
  3. Conquest - I believe there is more than 10 maps and all are re-playable.
  4. Moments - We all already know there are a ton of them.

Here is what you can do Online in DD:

  1. Ranked Seasons
  2. Battle Royale
  3. Events (when they have them running)
  4. Play versus a Friend

You literally have just as much to do offline as you do online, yet this is suppose to be an online mode. Hopefully Custom Leagues actually lets you play full seasons and you can then select your DD team to run a season with versus CPU, I think that would make all parties happy.

If you think those modes are equal and/or that the rewards are equal, sure, there is just as much to do.

My guess is that they will return and I mostly enjoyed them (although there were some that I hated). They certainly allowed me to earn program points and get rewards that I never would have earned any other way.

I liked some of the ones I could accomplish for cards and such. Rookie Chipper was worth grinding for. SS Ichiro was worth the effort. SS Wade Davis was very worthwhile.

Basically, if the set of missions needed was manageable in relation tot he reward I worked for it. The missions which involved a lot of RTTS elements were miserable and not worth the effort. Gaining assists when the CPU isn't hitting the ball near my side of the field or trying to steal bases when the CPU has me at first with a man on 2nd, these missions were definitely not worthwhile.

@omegaminus_sk said in Moments in The Show:

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

Here is what you can do offline in DD:

Play versus CPU MLB Teams
Play versus other users DD teams controlled by CPU
Conquest - I believe there is more than 10 maps and all are re-playable.
Moments - We all already know there are a ton of them.

The first and second items have no inherent purpose. You play a game and... that's it. there's no reward, no greater structure for them to be a part of, no immediate reason to play them at all. The games are about as meaningful as the games of Ice Hockey I played on the Atari 2600 in the mid-80s. I need better than that in this day and age.

Conquest has some framework to it beyond single meaningless games, but like I said, it's nothing but three-inning road games. It's the only part of offline DD that has any structure at all, and it gives me no use for my home uniforms or stadium cards.

The overwhelming majority of moments (over 80%, last I checked) don't involve my DD team. I have no interest in those. Even the ones that do use it don't count toward Team Affinity or Daily Mission innings (because "Moments is not Diamond Dynasty") in another baffling, arbitrary decision.

The list of online things-to-do contains so much more in terms of meaningfulness and rewards than the offline list that they're not comparable.

Hopefully Custom Leagues actually lets you play full seasons and you can then select your DD team to run a season with versus CPU, I think that would make all parties happy.

This I agree with completely.

MLB 18s grind for Immortal cards was way too long and it actually benefited someone who picked up the game in June/July (second round of career arcs came out) more then someone who was playing from the start, which was idiotic. Also, just because you are playing a game vs CPU but the stats are going to a card like Immortal Babe Ruth, you find that to be "structure and rewarding." Once you earned those Career arc cards like Belle, you would literally place them at the top of your lineup take one at bat and quit out until you completed his card, once again idiotic.

Furthermore, if you hover over DD at the Menu it literally says Create, Customize, and compete ONLINE. The game mode is structured for online users and if you play that mode majority of your time should be spent ONLINE.

Let me give you a different perspective: What If a user who spends 95% of their time playing ONLINE went and played Franchise/RTTS and started complaining that there is not enough ONLINE aspects in this mode and said they need to give us more in this mode, its not rewarding at all. Would that make sense? No.

@ag1982 said in Moments in The Show:

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

@omegaminus_sk said in Moments in The Show:

@cvogsfashow said in Moments in The Show:

I definitely get what your saying about offline not having as much to do. I don't want this coming off in a bad way or anything but Diamond Dynasty is made to be an online mode and majority of the time you spend playing that game mode should be online versus others not the CPU.

I understand that's the way they seem to have intended to position it, but I just don't see why this interesting and entertaining card-collecting part of the game should be restricted to online multiplayer. I'm far more interested in it as a way of acquiring and progressing a team than being a GM in Franchise mode, but the decision to target it to online players only seems needless and arbitrary.

Here is what you can do offline in DD:

  1. Play versus CPU MLB Teams
  2. Play versus other users DD teams controlled by CPU
  3. Conquest - I believe there is more than 10 maps and all are re-playable.
  4. Moments - We all already know there are a ton of them.

Here is what you can do Online in DD:

  1. Ranked Seasons
  2. Battle Royale
  3. Events (when they have them running)
  4. Play versus a Friend

You literally have just as much to do offline as you do online, yet this is suppose to be an online mode. Hopefully Custom Leagues actually lets you play full seasons and you can then select your DD team to run a season with versus CPU, I think that would make all parties happy.

If you think those modes are equal and/or that the rewards are equal, sure, there is just as much to do.

Hover over DD, it literally says Create, Customize, and Compete ONLINE. The mode is made for online users and Devs should not waste time trying to make more offline options. DD is made for you to spend time playing online not offline, that is literally why there is Franchise and RTTS. If you want Ted, Babe, Chipper, etc. etc. go download a historic roster and use that in Franchise. If you like the whole collecting baseball cards thing, there are great sims you can download on PC or Iphone.

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