Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM

No reason to see it not return for '21. Leagues is cool, but there's no real point to playing MLB leagues with 29 other players, bottom of the barrel teams who's talent is still in the minor leagues will never improve without bad trades.

DD leagues seem like a great idea though. Could even implement a similar Fantasy Draft style to it and adjust it to be able to do what MLB-40 can't. Would need a lot more work to do it but, meh. Looking forward to playing it.

I am not sure whether to applaud your optimism or shake my head over the fact that you are already setting yourself up for disappointment next year

I’d love to see an option to have all available DD cards in a draft style league. That way u don’t have to worry about people having unfair teams and people could try out different cards

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

You can play a DD league with live series players that take minimal effort to collect, plus now have the option to add extra legends and flashbacks. You can alter the team styles season to season as the year goes on.

Endless possibilities.

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

You can play a DD league with live series players that take minimal effort to collect, plus now have the option to add extra legends and flashbacks. You can alter the team styles season to season as the year goes on.

Endless possibilities.

It's getting close for sure but I still can't help but desire OFM.

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Going back to the possibilty of doing a draft and then trading players needed.

Even if you can set 15 teams to be controlled by the CPU. Will the CPU have trade logic? If so will it accept the trades? If not will the commissioner be able to force trades?

I think it is a longshot that you could pull off the draft/trade route with CPU teams and still maintain that even with 30 players it will be a logistical nightmare.

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Going back to the possibilty of doing a draft and then trading players needed.

Even if you can set 15 teams to be controlled by the CPU. Will the CPU have trade logic? If so will it accept the trades? If not will the commissioner be able to force trades?

I think it is a longshot that you could pull off the draft/trade route with CPU teams and still maintain that even with 30 players it will be a logistical nightmare.

In OFM the commish had full control of everything if that was the desired setting. If you broke rules in the online franchise and maybe didn’t rotate pitchers come playoffs the commish could even go back and change the result of the game and give the win to the other player. It’s actually pretty easy to give the CPU teams and this menu/interface looks almost identical to OFM just improved.

So yes, if 10 friends really wanted to run a fantasy draft it wouldn’t be all that difficult especially if you’ve played OF before. And again next to nobody plays with 30 teams, it is a nightmare I was only talking about 12 teams which I think is best.

The real issue I see is player progression being tied to regular season play as opposed to prospects rising and veterans degrading. Unless it changes after the first season that won’t be fun for people who like to play multiple seasons and rebuild.

What ofm means ?

@kidcharlemagne22 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

What ofm means ?

Online Franchise Mode

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Except you can't start with CPU teams. Pretty much none of what you've described in this thread is possible.

@Furious_Boogers said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Except you can't start with CPU teams. Pretty much none of what you've described in this thread is possible.

Where did anyone say you cant start the league with cpu teams? The way it showed, theoretically, you just dont invite people are just start

@Rabid55Wolverine said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Furious_Boogers said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Except you can't start with CPU teams. Pretty much none of what you've described in this thread is possible.

Where did anyone say you cant start the league with cpu teams? The way it showed, theoretically, you just dont invite people are just start

Just watching the stream, it seemed pretty clear that you populate teams by inviting people. Also, starting with CPU teams wouldn't work in a DD league as they would have no players.

Operation Sports came to the same conclusion: https://www.operationsports.com/mlb-the-show-20-stream-custom-leagues-breakdown/

It's just a simple tournament mode. There's nothing wrong with it, but folks are getting way over their skis on what they think is possible.

@Furious_Boogers said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Rabid55Wolverine said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Furious_Boogers said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Except you can't start with CPU teams. Pretty much none of what you've described in this thread is possible.

Where did anyone say you cant start the league with cpu teams? The way it showed, theoretically, you just dont invite people are just start

Just watching the stream, it seemed pretty clear that you populate teams by inviting people. Also, starting with CPU teams wouldn't work in a DD league as they would have no players.

Operation Sports came to the same conclusion: https://www.operationsports.com/mlb-the-show-20-stream-custom-leagues-breakdown/

It's just a simple tournament mode. There's nothing wrong with it, but folks are getting way over their skis on what they think is possible.

Yes but if you can just have a 2nd tag join and quit in a league, I dont see why you can't start a league without anyone else. Could be wrong but seems doable

@Furious_Boogers said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Rabid55Wolverine said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Furious_Boogers said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@nflman2033 said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@Dolenz said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

This is a massive W in my opinion. Given the two options you can run whatever type of custom leagues you want.

You can still easily make a fantasy draft and trade the players to the proper teams.

You can play with 4 12 16 teams however many or however stacked you want. 30 was almost never a thing in OFM anyway

The main issue is see with those statements is that you need a full 30 team league to make all the trades necessary for all of the players to be available. It also would be a bit of a logistical nightmare to actually execute all of the trades needed to pull it off.

Yup, that is what it looks like to me, limited on how many players you have to choose from, unless you want a ton of CPU teams, but then also not sure if you can just make CPU teams or do they only result from people quitting.

All teams would be CPU until your friends join. You would just have a full 30 team league with 15 CPU teams on ghost which would make no difference. My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

Except you can't start with CPU teams. Pretty much none of what you've described in this thread is possible.

Where did anyone say you cant start the league with cpu teams? The way it showed, theoretically, you just dont invite people are just start

Just watching the stream, it seemed pretty clear that you populate teams by inviting people. Also, starting with CPU teams wouldn't work in a DD league as they would have no players.

Operation Sports came to the same conclusion: https://www.operationsports.com/mlb-the-show-20-stream-custom-leagues-breakdown/

It's just a simple tournament mode. There's nothing wrong with it, but folks are getting way over their skis on what they think is possible.

Having played OFM mode before I’d say there is more in that video to suggest CPU teams are a thing, as opposed to the opposite. Especially that abundantly clear moment when they picked the white Sox in a already started league and didn’t populate the team through an invite like you claim, they were already there waiting to be picked. The Phillies were locked because they were already chosen, the others were not because they were....CPU.

This was when SDS showed the feature to search and join leagues, why would you only be able to search through the infinite number of leagues that haven’t started as oppose to ones that are started with CPU teams that need spots filled.... Just like you could before...

Nothing about the “no CPU teams” theory even makes any sense. People look for ANYTHING to complain about even if it’s a game mode they never play.

As for the article and “pRetTy MucH evEryThing You saiD beInG InAccUratE” is actually pretty much all in the article. The only thing that isn’t is the CPU teams which I’m assuming SDS didn’t talk about because it’s obvious and common sense.

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

Having played OFM mode before I’d say there is more in that video to suggest CPU teams are a thing, as opposed to the opposite. Especially that abundantly clear moment when they picked the white Sox in a already started league and didn’t populate the team through an invite like you claim, they were already there waiting to be picked. The Phillies were locked because they were already chosen, the others were not because they were....CPU.

It's a subtle thing. They showed a league that didn't have all slots taken, but they didn't show if it was possible to play games before all slots were taken. For all we know, it may not be possible to start playing games until all slots are taken by human players.

This was when SDS showed the feature to search and join leagues, why would you only be able to search through the infinite number of leagues that haven’t started as oppose to ones that are started with CPU teams that need spots filled.... Just like you could before...

Nothing about the “no CPU teams” theory even makes any sense. People look for ANYTHING to complain about even if it’s a game mode they never play.
As for the article and “pRetTy MucH evEryThing You saiD beInG InAccUratE” is actually pretty much all in the article. The only thing that isn’t is the CPU teams which I’m assuming SDS didn’t talk about because it’s obvious and common sense.

Personally, it's because I don't trust them and I'm not willing to take anything on faith. I want more meaningful single-player things to do with my DD team (and I know I'm not the only one) and it looks like Custom Leagues may fit that bill. But there are questions about certain areas of how it works, and I'm not going to assume anything given how SDS doesn't seem interested in making meaningful single-player things to do with my DD team beyond a couple of very narrow modes (Conquest and a small minority of Moments) that seem more intended to be occasional diversions for H2H players. It seems to me that if they were interested in attracting single-player DD users, they'd be glad to confirm you as being right about being able to start a league with CPU teams. But they haven't, which tells me they're not trying to appeal to me.

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

As for the article and “pRetTy MucH evEryThing You saiD beInG InAccUratE” is actually pretty much all in the article. The only thing that isn’t is the CPU teams which I’m assuming SDS didn’t talk about because it’s obvious and common sense.

LOL! Everything you've described is predicated on CPU teams being available from the start.

@ChArTeRBuS said in Looks like I'm buying a PS5 for OFM:

My only point was technically everything that was possible in OFM seems to be back now with additional features like live series upgrades and downgrades

I just caught this. I'm being trolled, aren't I?

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