The three features that received the most L's in todays stream

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

If you're playing offline, you don't really need the evolution version of a card. You do after all get to select the difficulty you want to play most of the time.

That's the point most are trying to make. The way DD is set up, your cards essentially don't matter offline. Virtually all the incentives are for H2H play which is probably the weakest portion of the game, at least from a gameplay standpoint.

Folks want a reason to collect cards outside of using them H2H.

There still hasn't been a reasonable argument in favor of Prestige being online only. Every post has just been "but offline players dont NEED them", like this is a matter of need

I personally loved number 1 because you get a free 91 for doing minimal grinds and if you chose to play more you can get a better card. I think it’s a win win. However the no quicksell and br 3 batter thing is annoying

I really love what they offer us in this game mode.

Just a tiny bit disappointed about the online prestige grind.

I understand it and I'm not gonna cry over it but as a non US based player (France) I'm really unable to play online due to the server response speed making it uncompetitive.

I wish even though I understand we're just a few thousand they'd take it into account.

Well now if they set up a EU server I'll be ok with online only grind...

Oh, and one more thing. You say that "Offline players don't need prestige diamonds". Are you suggesting that online players need these cards? That they'll be unable to complete without the +3 boost to all stats?

All offline players asked for was some kind of stat grind and some kind of mode to play offline 9 inning games that matter in some way. Not a bunch of gimmicky modes that dont even use our DD team

I pre ordered already, but this is probably the last year I'll be buying at full price.

P.S. screw moments...

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

All offline players asked for was some kind of stat grind and some kind of mode to play offline 9 inning games that matter in some way. Not a bunch of gimmicky modes that dont even use our DD team

I pre ordered already, but this is probably the last year I'll be buying at full price.

P.S. screw moments...

It’s amazing how tone deaf they can be sometimes.

From the stream, “We listened to your feedback!” Well yes, but no not really.

@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

  1. Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
  2. If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
  3. Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)

Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.

I think you can still exchange locked cards correct?

@JuiceBagnAs said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

  1. Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
  2. If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
  3. Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)

Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.

I think you can still exchange locked cards correct?

Nope

@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

The collection one doesn't really bother me all that much. The Prestige Diamonds being locked behind online grinds irked me though. Online already basically had a monopoly on BR rewards, why give them another with this?

I agree with you as far as the having the opportunity to accomplish the stats offline.

Because everyone knows it is going to be just Like the Ken Griffey's grind where you had to get so many HR's in a game and people either walks him or pitched around him so the fact that Online play is required does not make me happy b/c we know how many trolls play online!

They could make it to where you have to play on all star difficulty or higher which is what online play is.

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

I think we're pretty much on the same page but I would just tweak this a little bit to emphasize more MEANINGFUL things to do offline (ie. reasons to actual collect cards and improve your team).

There's stuff to do offline, but none of it really matters unless you want to take your team H2H.

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

I think we're pretty much on the same page but I would just tweak this a little bit to emphasize more MEANINGFUL things to do offline (ie. reasons to actual collect cards and improve your team).

There's stuff to do offline, but none of it really matters unless you want to take your team H2H.

I agree we are close, but having more things to do offline to collect rewards should not be viewed as a bad thing, just because they weren't more meaningful or not using your DD cards. I am still happy that I have more things to do offline than just conquest or play vs CPU. MTO was added last year and showdown this year, both are offline modes to earn rewards. So to me that is SDS listening to players like me and doing something. Just because they didnt get it perfect doesnt mean I am going to complain.

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

I think we're pretty much on the same page but I would just tweak this a little bit to emphasize more MEANINGFUL things to do offline (ie. reasons to actual collect cards and improve your team).

There's stuff to do offline, but none of it really matters unless you want to take your team H2H.

With all due respect some people like playing offline with their favorite players just as much as the person who plays H2H. I don't think it is fair how the community lumps people into a category of online or offline player.

The game is made for all baseball fans and Diamond Dynasty is as Advertised "Play with players you want and How you want!" So when people are constantly bagging on people who play offline b/c it isn't competitive mode is really annoying.

I know it wasn't how you meant it but some in the community lump offline players in with people who only play on rookie difficulty blah blah blah type comments when in fact there could be various reasons why people play offline.

I am all for rewarding the good players with good rewards, but it does seclude part of the fan base who are also fans of the good reward players that end up being 200+K on the market and that is why i would scrap Market all together or put a cap on each tier of card.

@Dolenz said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

  1. Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
  2. If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
  3. Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)

Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.

I understand your thoughts. I and half and half on the no quick sell thing. I hate the 3 batter minimum in real life and in the game.

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

But there was lots to do offline last year. The problems were that the stuff they added has nothing to do with using your DD team, which is the whole point of the mode. So we still gave the same problem as last year, play conquest over and over or nothing.

@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@KingsCountyOG718 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@ImDFC said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

The collection one doesn't really bother me all that much. The Prestige Diamonds being locked behind online grinds irked me though. Online already basically had a monopoly on BR rewards, why give them another with this?

Listen fellas it's only right certain cards be obtained through online DD..It is a different mode that plays against real competition..What's wrong with having different cards for a whole different mode..Actually it's a whole different game..Def not in a controlled environment, unless you consider the room you're playing in just that..Another analogy is a game being on rails guiding you. The you play GTA and see or WOW and see a wide open world where you'll meet and go against a whole world of competition. So I see nothing wrong with having different cards and or sets I'll be grinding for the same cards you will have and building a perfect team for me to beat some real people..Not knocking off line play at all either my fellow nationers. Just saying theres another side to this game and it's only right it has access to different cards.

I agree, you should have certain online cards. In fact, you already have them. BR Flawless cards. As stated before, the average player cannot obtain them without spending real money

Not true.SDS gave us all the ability to have "end game" team just by the free cards and packs..Conquest and just playing will give you cards. Google how people flip those..Also have moments all over the place.A little luck will make that go even further. I only spent $20 extra I'm stubs..Rest of my team is just from building, flipping and seeing who works best for me. If this was Madden or 2k I would agree, but this isnt. Cant have your cake and eat it too..BTW know what it takes to acquire a BR reward?? Hence why those things are super rare, well they were anyway..

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

But there was lots to do offline last year. The problems were that the stuff they added has nothing to do with using your DD team, which is the whole point of the mode. So we still gave the same problem as last year, play conquest over and over or nothing.

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@maskedgrappler said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Furious_Boogers said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@GradektheBard said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

SDS has always favored online play because it makes you feel that you need better players so then you will buy more stubs. It is a cash grab, just like "no quick selling collected cards" is. SDS has never cared much for offline players in DD. These reasons mean that I will be only playing offline leagues this time around. I am not spending extra money just to be regulated to the 2nd class citizen status again.

Seriously? Online has RS, BR, and events. Offline has conquest, affinity, MTO (new in 19), moments (new in 19), and showdown (new in 20). SDS does an amazing job for offline. And even these red diamonds are pretty easy stat grinds online (no absurd single game missions) that you can literally do on veteran difficulty by keeping yourself at the lowest level of RS.

I agree, they have no doubt answered the pleas the offline guys have had. The only thing that is strange is those offline modes that have been added do not utilize your DD cards. Moments has preset players to use, showdown is a BR draft style. So the only mode offline specific for your DD cards is Conquest, other than straight up vs CPU. I do think trying to arrange an online league and kick out users maybe the best thing for Offline guys to do to have something vs CPU that utilizes your acquired cards.

I agree with everything outside of your opening sentence. They 'answered' the pleas for offline folks in the same manner custom leagues answered the pleas of online franchise users (ie. they didn't).

No, just because you don't like the answer doesnt mean it is not an answer.

Its an answer to a question no one asked.

It wasnt a question that was asked, it was an answer to people pleading for more things to do in DD offline.

But there was lots to do offline last year. The problems were that the stuff they added has nothing to do with using your DD team, which is the whole point of the mode. So we still gave the same problem as last year, play conquest over and over or nothing.

Still better than doing nothing, like what happens to franchise.

Again, SDS treats offline DD players like 2nd class citizens. The reason is because they believe that offline players do not buy as many stubs as online players. And that may even be true. But the REASON it is true is that SDS does not give offline players much to do with the cards. We beg and plead for ways to use our DD cards offline, which would also give offline players incentive to buy stubs. Crickets.

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