EA vs. SDS

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Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but it's worth noting:

EA is a publicly traded company. They're obligated to return as much money as possible to their shareholders. Hence why pay-to-win is more prevalent and, from what everyone seems to think, game play has been in a years long nose dive. The focus is much less on crafting good games than it is on making money. Before online gameplay was big, the only way to make more money was to sell more copies of your game- hence why creating a better game than the competition was important. Now, it's all about the micro-transaction.

SDS, as far as I'm aware, is privately held. As long as they're happy with their bottom line, they can do whatever they feel like.

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@Dino-might_not said in EA vs. SDS:

Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but it's worth noting:

EA is a publicly traded company. They're obligated to return as much money as possible to their shareholders. Hence why pay-to-win is more prevalent and, from what everyone seems to think, game play has been in a years long nose dive. The focus is much less on crafting good games than it is on making money. Before online gameplay was big, the only way to make more money was to sell more copies of your game- hence why creating a better game than the competition was important. Now, it's all about the micro-transaction.

SDS, as far as I'm aware, is privately held. As long as they're happy with their bottom line, they can do whatever they feel like.

Yeah never mind they're a subsidiary of Sony

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Nonetheless, company A and company B still have the same goal. Namely, to make profit.

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Yeah I was going to say their part of the larger Sony company. Either way SDS is way better than EA.

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@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

Nonetheless, company A and company B still have the same goal. Namely, to make profit.

Indeed, but the pressure of Wall Street adds a completely different element. You can run a highly profitable company, but if it's less profitable than Wall Street wants, you're screwed.

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@Dino-might_not said in EA vs. SDS:

@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

Nonetheless, company A and company B still have the same goal. Namely, to make profit.

Indeed, but the pressure of Wall Street adds a completely different element. You can run a highly profitable company, but if it's less profitable than Wall Street wants, you're screwed.

It’s not a great comparison anyway. I hate EA and walked away from FIFA years ago when they added contract items and so on. When they ruined Need For Speed by introducing loot boxes to that, I walked away from EA games entirely. It’s funny, because when I was very young (Sega Genesis is the console I’m referring to here kinda young), EA were an excellent developer with a super high reputation in my mind. They not only led the way in sports gaming, bringing titles like FIFA, NHL, Madden and PGA Tour Golf to consoles, they also delivered games like Road Rash, James Pond, Theme Park etc.

Back in the mid-late 90s they were everyone’s favourite game company. The way they managed to embrace the micro transaction model, eventually putting the ability to bleed players pockets dry post launch above the ability to deliver the best possible gaming experience, has been divisive. While they’re not exactly struggling, having built a solid reputation from years ago and owning the rights to most of the major sports franchises on console, I’m sure I'm not the only one who has sworn off EA games as a result of their chosen direction over the last half decade or more.

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@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

@Dino-might_not said in EA vs. SDS:

@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

Nonetheless, company A and company B still have the same goal. Namely, to make profit.

Indeed, but the pressure of Wall Street adds a completely different element. You can run a highly profitable company, but if it's less profitable than Wall Street wants, you're screwed.

It’s not a great comparison anyway. I hate EA and walked away from FIFA years ago when they added contract items and so on. When they ruined Need For Speed by introducing loot boxes to that, I walked away from EA games entirely. It’s funny, because when I was very young (Sega Genesis is the console I’m referring to here kinda young), EA were an excellent developer with a super high reputation in my mind. They not only led the way in sports gaming, bringing titles like FIFA, NHL, Madden and PGA Tour Golf to consoles, they also delivered games like Road Rash, James Pond, Theme Park etc.

Back in the mid-late 90s they were everyone’s favourite game company. The way they managed to embrace the micro transaction model, eventually putting the ability to bleed players pockets dry post launch above the ability to deliver the best possible gaming experience, has been divisive. While they’re not exactly struggling, having built a solid reputation from years ago and owning the rights to most of the major sports franchises on console, I’m sure I'm not the only one who has sworn off EA games as a result of their chosen direction over the last half decade or more.

It's funny I just took a look at my hardcopy games, and I have 4 EA titles- Madden 19, FIFA 19, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order, and Star Wars Squadrons. The only 1 I really enjoyed was Fallen Order, Squadrons has been very underwhelming in the hour or two I've put in to it so far. FIFA was a lot of fun but I got tired of it when I realized I would never really be able to get the best players without dropping literally hundreds of actual dollars into the game. Madden I only played a bit offline, it came with FIFA.

Anyway that was a rambling way of saying good analysis of where EA's at. Every one of their titles that I own has tons of micro-transactions.

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Both The Show & Madden were great games at launch and both are painfully unplayable online after being ruined by patches.

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The S in SDS stands for Sony. They’re the company that created the Sony PlayStation you purchased. The SONY playstation has a thing called The SONY PlayStation store, that allows micro transactions. SONY (the owners of this game) makes money off every single micro transaction on every single game in the SONY PlayStation store.... good for about 8 billion dollars a year. They care more than anyone about micro transactions. They have stubs sales every two weeks and more than any other game because they only need to ask themselves for permission. This company has enough money to create and own the rights to every sports game but they choose NOT too, because EA and 2k feed them hundreds of millions on a yearly basis.

Not really as sweet and sugary as you want it to be my guy.

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The ability to have God squads without putting any extra $ into the game easily goes to SDS. The amount of flipping and investing needed on EA games to obtain the highest end cards is so much higher than what you have to do on The Show.

Just looking at the latest TA drop, the sheer amount of packs you get for completing just the Conquest maps would be unheard of for an EA title. They have done a much better job creating more purposeful ways of using your DD team in single player player modes than earlier this year. Hopefully they add in Squad Battles type content as well next year.

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@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

@Dino-might_not said in EA vs. SDS:

@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

Nonetheless, company A and company B still have the same goal. Namely, to make profit.

Indeed, but the pressure of Wall Street adds a completely different element. You can run a highly profitable company, but if it's less profitable than Wall Street wants, you're screwed.

It’s not a great comparison anyway. I hate EA and walked away from FIFA years ago when they added contract items and so on. When they ruined Need For Speed by introducing loot boxes to that, I walked away from EA games entirely. It’s funny, because when I was very young (Sega Genesis is the console I’m referring to here kinda young), EA were an excellent developer with a super high reputation in my mind. They not only led the way in sports gaming, bringing titles like FIFA, NHL, Madden and PGA Tour Golf to consoles, they also delivered games like Road Rash, James Pond, Theme Park etc.

Back in the mid-late 90s they were everyone’s favourite game company. The way they managed to embrace the micro transaction model, eventually putting the ability to bleed players pockets dry post launch above the ability to deliver the best possible gaming experience, has been divisive. While they’re not exactly struggling, having built a solid reputation from years ago and owning the rights to most of the major sports franchises on console, I’m sure I'm not the only one who has sworn off EA games as a result of their chosen direction over the last half decade or more.

Oh man, if SDS ever implements “contracts” in Diamond Dynasty, they will never see mommy’s credit card from me again. Do you think that’ll ever happen in MLB the Show?

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@writetoshawn said in EA vs. SDS:

@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

@Dino-might_not said in EA vs. SDS:

@ComebackLogic said in EA vs. SDS:

Nonetheless, company A and company B still have the same goal. Namely, to make profit.

Indeed, but the pressure of Wall Street adds a completely different element. You can run a highly profitable company, but if it's less profitable than Wall Street wants, you're screwed.

It’s not a great comparison anyway. I hate EA and walked away from FIFA years ago when they added contract items and so on. When they ruined Need For Speed by introducing loot boxes to that, I walked away from EA games entirely. It’s funny, because when I was very young (Sega Genesis is the console I’m referring to here kinda young), EA were an excellent developer with a super high reputation in my mind. They not only led the way in sports gaming, bringing titles like FIFA, NHL, Madden and PGA Tour Golf to consoles, they also delivered games like Road Rash, James Pond, Theme Park etc.

Back in the mid-late 90s they were everyone’s favourite game company. The way they managed to embrace the micro transaction model, eventually putting the ability to bleed players pockets dry post launch above the ability to deliver the best possible gaming experience, has been divisive. While they’re not exactly struggling, having built a solid reputation from years ago and owning the rights to most of the major sports franchises on console, I’m sure I'm not the only one who has sworn off EA games as a result of their chosen direction over the last half decade or more.

Oh man, if SDS ever implements “contracts” in Diamond Dynasty, they will never see mommy’s credit card from me again. Do you think that’ll ever happen in MLB the Show?

I hope not, it’s kind of a deal breaker for me. No chance I ever endorse a system where I lay out an astronomical price for a juiced player in MLB the Show and then it costs me even more just to use them! That’s insanity.

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@ChArTeRBuS said in EA vs. SDS:

The S in SDS stands for Sony. They’re the company that created the Sony PlayStation you purchased. The SONY playstation has a thing called The SONY PlayStation store, that allows micro transactions. SONY (the owners of this game) makes money off every single micro transaction on every single game in the SONY PlayStation store.... good for about 8 billion dollars a year. They care more than anyone about micro transactions. They have stubs sales every two weeks and more than any other game because they only need to ask themselves for permission. This company has enough money to create and own the rights to every sports game but they choose NOT too, because EA and 2k feed them hundreds of millions on a yearly basis.

Not really as sweet and sugary as you want it to be my guy.

Doesn’t SDS stand for “San Diego Studios”?

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@JediOfArgonath said in EA vs. SDS:

Both The Show & Madden were great games at launch and both are painfully unplayable online after being ruined by patches.

I respectfully disagree with Madden being a great game!
Madden buyer from '99 to '19 but i gave up because of how cheesy it's become.
'03-'05 I took off for 2K. With 2K5 being the greatest ever. EA still can't touch it.

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It does, he was being a troll

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