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So I was laying in bed and got up to write this post. I had a few frustrating games on MLB The Show tonight and turned it off. When reflecting on everything, I started thinking about everything going on in the world with this epidemic. Many human beings have lost their lives due to this epidemic. Many families have been through a horific experience with their loved ones dying and not being able to be with them during their final time on earth. Many others are dealing with unemployment and wondering how they are going to eat or pay their bills. Hopefully, everyone on the forum is safe and not having to deal with these issues. I am fortunate in the fact I have been working from home and haven't yet (and hopefully don't) have to deal with this epidemic first hand.
Now I am as guilty as others about being frustrated with the game but when you turn on CNN or some other news channel, having issues with an online game is extremely trivial. Maybe SDS employees are dealing with some of those issues I mentioned before. I am going to refrain from posting on frustrations of the game and hope when this passes that they can then work on the game. I do hope everyone stays safe.
You took a 7-0 lead in the top of the 2nd and I was about to quit until you started watching your HR's the entire time. I then decided I was just going to play it out and waste your time. Was pretty fun putting up a 12 spot and watching all 5 HR's at full length. Don't be a peter and you would have got the win in the 2nd and been on your way to another game. Instead you got the loss and deleted your pitching staff.
Why do people feel they need to watch HR replays? Games are long enough as it is. I will do it when you do though.
Relievers get tired walking in from the pen.
Can't score 4 runs off Cole because I have to hit into 5 double plays on good swings. Also enjoy the gold glove fielders every where diving like it's a sportscenter highlight reel.
@joshdcarr25 said in I really hate online play.:
I hate ranked seasons because of this. It feels like whoever has the weaker lineup gets the favored outcome. I played someone recently that had a losing record and .231 average. My average in ranked is .301. I had 16 dead or near dead center good/okays for outs and lost the game. I usually can tell early if I am going to lose when I start getting an obsessive amount of good/okay and my pitches float down the middle despite perfect input. It sucks because online play is my favorite but it's ruining it for me.
There are a ton of tell tale signs that show you will probably lose the game. If they don't exist, it is usually a very early quit for my opponent. If they are, I am either going to lose or it will be a dog fight. Jumpy pci when hitting Good/good+ rarely results in hits Throw either down the middle or ball - jumpy pci when pitching Opponents get hits on everything Strikes on corners Fielding blunders (quite a few different ones) Base stealers get very poor jumps Extra long or very slow returns when rounding a base
Pretty sure there are a few I am forgetting but when you see these signs it is best to cut bait and quit or you will get get frustrated and it is a complete waste of time. The ONLY way to win these games (which is possible) is if your opponent swings at balls outside the zone or can't hit pitches down the middle. Based on these, I can usually tell within the first 3 innings whether I am going to win. Game is extremely predictable if you pay attention to the signs.
Last two days, every pitch is either right over the plate or a ft outside. Never had this issue in an other show game. Every time I square up a fastball it is foul. I have now hit more foul HR's than regular. Can't even react to pitches or recognize them. Had no issues on Thursday. Had someone 30 pitches deep with their reliever dotting pitches. My guys are uncontrollable after a batter.
I can only imagine how other people are feeling. I am 34-13 in HOF event and 20-6 in RS and it just hasn't been fun the last 2 days. I have tried every pitching I can and every way. Particular enjoyed the 2 perfect meter pitches missing the mark by 2 feet.
Getting pretty old having to outscore people while throwing meatballs every fckn pitch. Analog, pulse, meter - it doesn't matter. Good release, bad release. They all seem to find their way right down the middle. Another absolutely worthless patch. If this is how pitching is going to be the whole time, just let me know.
I'll take 18 with the souvenirs and exchanges 10 times over this pile of [censored] where every pitch is down the middle or a ball. The reason hitting is easy is because you have to serve the ball on a silver fckn platter.
The only way I can half enjoy this game is to play on a mobile hot spot. That is so ridiculous it is laughable.
@JWKEEP_ said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Trudgeon said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.: Playing online, there is hardly any skill involved/needed. What’s the point of pci and perfect pitch releases if the ball is thrown down the middle and if you can hit homeruns on pitches where the pci isn’t even on it. Yet you can get perfect perfect fly outs all the time. It’s not fun playing a game where you have no control over it I played yesterday hit a perfect/perfect with a right hander and was a Warner track fly out to right center. I looked at the pitch and was low and away fast ball. Now many batters have opposite field power. So even though it was perfect/ perfect was was a perfect hit for that pitch and location. Not every hit can be a home run. No need to complain all the time just have fun with the game.
@Trudgeon said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
Playing online, there is hardly any skill involved/needed. What’s the point of pci and perfect pitch releases if the ball is thrown down the middle and if you can hit homeruns on pitches where the pci isn’t even on it. Yet you can get perfect perfect fly outs all the time. It’s not fun playing a game where you have no control over it
I played yesterday hit a perfect/perfect with a right hander and was a Warner track fly out to right center. I looked at the pitch and was low and away fast ball. Now many batters have opposite field power. So even though it was perfect/ perfect was was a perfect hit for that pitch and location. Not every hit can be a home run. No need to complain all the time just have fun with the game.
I think you would be surprised at how many people could take losses if they thought the game play was fair. Match me up against players with similar ping and if someone can beat me 10-0 congrats! More than likely an opponent with similar pings my user input would match the result. With the connections and matchmaking like they currently are it is difficult to get excited about winning a game 10-0. Was my opponent seeing the 120 mph sinkers that I see a lot? Was he getting good input for pitching and the balls going no where near where they were putting them? That is what comes to mind when I win.
No. Made a ton of posts about it. That patch really did something bad to pitching for some of us. I can't play RS at all and turn off the game early all the time. Every pitch is down the middle or outside the zone. Tried different inputs, connections and even a different controller.
18 was horrible mainly due to souvenirs and exchanges. As far as game play, 20 is the worst one for me by far. I basically throw HR derby every game.
Wood and Burnett are really good if you can handle some control issues. Wood's stuff is great. Also had success with Dustin Mays.
I mean my pitches go down the middle anyway. These guys have really good pitches though with high velo. I don't know where most of my pitches are going with good input.
@Hubijerk said in Rhyme or reason to hitting:
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Rhyme or reason to hitting: @Hubijerk said in Rhyme or reason to hitting: For example, in COD you have known factors. For example an SMG may have a 7-10 bullet kill at close range, a particular AR may be 4-6... Who wins the gunfight is a matter of distance, accuracy and time. You can understand why you win or lose in a situation and work on improving or put yourself in better positions. You set you're equipment then operate in the range that works best for you're style/setup. It's hard to figure out exactly what impacts what in the Show. Maybe these things are listed somewhere but I'm new to the game and haven't seen them. Being an online competitive game I feel like these things should be known, and when buffs or Nerfs happen we should know exactly what and when. Also, who/what is DEMISE? Thanks, -J Well, COD implemented ping based match making because they finally figured out that ping is everything and matching up people with very different pings made the game a horrible experience. What you need in this game is that magic internet. How you get that? Who knows but if you don't have that magic internet you will see all kinds of bs a lot more than they do. Ahh... DEMISE... I guess what's bothering me is that there are too many questions when, obviously, there are known answers because it all has to be programmed. I really enjoy the game and things like the occasional glitchy base running problem or throw issues don't bother so much, those things happen. Does anyone notice a difference from stadium to stadium, or weather like rain (amount of data on screen). Most of the games I match up with are west coast as I'm in Vegas, but I will get some east coast games sometimes (based on names) I'm going to start paying attention more to the differences in good games vs. those of questionable ilk. As far as hosting and servers, does anyone know where they are?
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Rhyme or reason to hitting:
@Hubijerk said in Rhyme or reason to hitting: For example, in COD you have known factors. For example an SMG may have a 7-10 bullet kill at close range, a particular AR may be 4-6... Who wins the gunfight is a matter of distance, accuracy and time. You can understand why you win or lose in a situation and work on improving or put yourself in better positions. You set you're equipment then operate in the range that works best for you're style/setup. It's hard to figure out exactly what impacts what in the Show. Maybe these things are listed somewhere but I'm new to the game and haven't seen them. Being an online competitive game I feel like these things should be known, and when buffs or Nerfs happen we should know exactly what and when. Also, who/what is DEMISE? Thanks, -J Well, COD implemented ping based match making because they finally figured out that ping is everything and matching up people with very different pings made the game a horrible experience. What you need in this game is that magic internet. How you get that? Who knows but if you don't have that magic internet you will see all kinds of bs a lot more than they do.
For example, in COD you have known factors. For example an SMG may have a 7-10 bullet kill at close range, a particular AR may be 4-6... Who wins the gunfight is a matter of distance, accuracy and time. You can understand why you win or lose in a situation and work on improving or put yourself in better positions. You set you're equipment then operate in the range that works best for you're style/setup. It's hard to figure out exactly what impacts what in the Show. Maybe these things are listed somewhere but I'm new to the game and haven't seen them. Being an online competitive game I feel like these things should be known, and when buffs or Nerfs happen we should know exactly what and when. Also, who/what is DEMISE? Thanks, -J
For example, in COD you have known factors. For example an SMG may have a 7-10 bullet kill at close range, a particular AR may be 4-6... Who wins the gunfight is a matter of distance, accuracy and time. You can understand why you win or lose in a situation and work on improving or put yourself in better positions. You set you're equipment then operate in the range that works best for you're style/setup.
It's hard to figure out exactly what impacts what in the Show. Maybe these things are listed somewhere but I'm new to the game and haven't seen them. Being an online competitive game I feel like these things should be known, and when buffs or Nerfs happen we should know exactly what and when.
Also, who/what is DEMISE?
Thanks,
-J
Well, COD implemented ping based match making because they finally figured out that ping is everything and matching up people with very different pings made the game a horrible experience.
What you need in this game is that magic internet. How you get that? Who knows but if you don't have that magic internet you will see all kinds of bs a lot more than they do.
Ahh... DEMISE... I guess what's bothering me is that there are too many questions when, obviously, there are known answers because it all has to be programmed. I really enjoy the game and things like the occasional glitchy base running problem or throw issues don't bother so much, those things happen.
Does anyone notice a difference from stadium to stadium, or weather like rain (amount of data on screen).
Most of the games I match up with are west coast as I'm in Vegas, but I will get some east coast games sometimes (based on names) I'm going to start paying attention more to the differences in good games vs. those of questionable ilk. As far as hosting and servers, does anyone know where they are?
With the amount of coding in games, you are always going to have some issues. However, imo, most of the issues in this game are due to connections and not coding. I think most of this stuff works fine when they are testing it in their studios.
Quite a few people say major league stadiums are laggy. Most games feel that way to me anyway.
I believe this game is peer to peer but not 100% positive. I don't know all the details. I just know the game doesn't play very good. For some reason, if I pick like Giants stadium I seem to play people with west coast in their names or Arizona. If I pick an east coast stadium, I get east coast teams. If I pick KC, I get some KC, St Louis and OK but also quite a few east coast teams. Not sure why.
Play MLB and COD now and bored to tears. Used to be PUBG but haven't played that in a while. Been watching a lot of shows and movies lately.
I believe I did say Schmidt was the best 3rd baseman of all time. I still don't think he was a better hitter than Pujols or Cabrera in their prime.
@ItsaCanesthing said in Utilizing SS Mariano Rivera:
I have been playing the event mostly to prestige Mo and finally finsh Oswalt. Mo has been shakey at times for me. How are you guys utilizing him? I mean what pitch mix are you using? I have not been able to figure out a putaway pitch with him. He doesnt have a wipeout slider and I do not trust changeups at all. Everything else is pretty much the same speed. Any tips will be appreciated. Thanks
I have been playing the event mostly to prestige Mo and finally finsh Oswalt.
Mo has been shakey at times for me. How are you guys utilizing him? I mean what pitch mix are you using? I have not been able to figure out a putaway pitch with him. He doesnt have a wipeout slider and I do not trust changeups at all. Everything else is pretty much the same speed.
Any tips will be appreciated. Thanks
I think most people look for the cutter and for good reason. Maybe mix in more sinkers and 4 seam.
WAR is the most overrated stat ever. Largely dependent on your backup.
Schmidt was a career .267 hitter with a strikeout almost once every 5 plate appearances. Terrific player, all time great, HOF, best 3rd baseman but not the hitter Pujols and Cabrera was in their prime imo.
@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why:
Pujols - 144 career wRC+, 87.7 fWAR Trout - 172 career wRC+, 73.4 fWAR (obviously on a legendary trajectory) Manny - 153 career wRC+, 66.3 fWAR Cabrera - 146 career wRC+, 70.6 fWAR Schmidt - 147 career wRC+, 106.5 fWAR Schmidt is absolutely in that conversation as best right-handed hitter since the mid 70's.. literally right in line. And because of his defense, as one of the best players period since that time. Trout is on an otherworldly trajectory. Pujols slowed down to a crawl, but so did Miggy and Schmidt. They all do.. And ya, Brett is definitely top 5 greatest 3B... After Schmidt, you can put him, Chipper, Mathews, Boggs, and even Beltre in any position 2-6.. it's close. Anyways, my point was Schmidt was in that mix, and stats prove it. He's right in line with hitting, and crushes them overall, because of his elite defense
Pujols - 144 career wRC+, 87.7 fWAR
Trout - 172 career wRC+, 73.4 fWAR (obviously on a legendary trajectory)
Manny - 153 career wRC+, 66.3 fWAR
Cabrera - 146 career wRC+, 70.6 fWAR
Schmidt - 147 career wRC+, 106.5 fWAR
Schmidt is absolutely in that conversation as best right-handed hitter since the mid 70's.. literally right in line. And because of his defense, as one of the best players period since that time.
Trout is on an otherworldly trajectory. Pujols slowed down to a crawl, but so did Miggy and Schmidt. They all do..
And ya, Brett is definitely top 5 greatest 3B... After Schmidt, you can put him, Chipper, Mathews, Boggs, and even Beltre in any position 2-6.. it's close.
Anyways, my point was Schmidt was in that mix, and stats prove it. He's right in line with hitting, and crushes them overall, because of his elite defense
Trout is still in his prime Manny was a cheater allowing him to sustain it for longer Pujols and Cabrera have taken a big hit on those numbers for several years. These two haven't put up good numbers for what, 3 years now for Cabrera and like 6 for Pujols? Subtract those years and I will bet they are pretty close to trout for wRC+. Schmidt was the best 3rd baseman of all time which says a lot.Brett is a close 2nd though.
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @eatyum said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course. For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP I agree! Last year was very encouraging. I knew he was disciplined in the minors during his breakout, but nobody thought he would be truly elite at it. Which he's become. If he's even 80% his father, which he very well could be, the Jays have a stud. The best part is, Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. Vlad, Bo, Groshans and Now Martin are the true core. Getting Cavan in there is just gravy. And a high on base to go with the potential of those offensive pieces is scary If he does good this year again, I will believe in him. But from the scouting reports Bo and Vlad will be amazing. Bo was amazing last year and I think he will continue to be the Jays superstar for years to come, Cavan could but Bo and Vlad have a better chance Oh for sure. Bo, in my opinion is the centerpiece. I think he can be an mvp candidate for years to come. Total package. He just flat out hits.. and hits it extremely hard! You wouldn't think he has the power he does, but his swing has insane exit velos. Vlad will be limited to only his hitting being valuable. Though I think he has the potential to hit like Miggy in his prime. Or become a monster power hitter even. But more of a 1B/DH... He will only be at 3B until Groshans makes him move over. Miggy huh? That's high praise. Probably the 3 best right hand hitters I have seen (watched baseball since mid 70's) are Miggy, Pujols and Trout. Also, if you've watched baseball since the mid 70's (me the late 80's), then you forgot Schmidt and Manny. Every bit as good
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Predict your teams record here and why:
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They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course. For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP I agree! Last year was very encouraging. I knew he was disciplined in the minors during his breakout, but nobody thought he would be truly elite at it. Which he's become. If he's even 80% his father, which he very well could be, the Jays have a stud. The best part is, Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. Vlad, Bo, Groshans and Now Martin are the true core. Getting Cavan in there is just gravy. And a high on base to go with the potential of those offensive pieces is scary If he does good this year again, I will believe in him. But from the scouting reports Bo and Vlad will be amazing. Bo was amazing last year and I think he will continue to be the Jays superstar for years to come, Cavan could but Bo and Vlad have a better chance Oh for sure. Bo, in my opinion is the centerpiece. I think he can be an mvp candidate for years to come. Total package. He just flat out hits.. and hits it extremely hard! You wouldn't think he has the power he does, but his swing has insane exit velos. Vlad will be limited to only his hitting being valuable. Though I think he has the potential to hit like Miggy in his prime. Or become a monster power hitter even. But more of a 1B/DH... He will only be at 3B until Groshans makes him move over. Miggy huh? That's high praise. Probably the 3 best right hand hitters I have seen (watched baseball since mid 70's) are Miggy, Pujols and Trout.
@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @eatyum said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course. For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP I agree! Last year was very encouraging. I knew he was disciplined in the minors during his breakout, but nobody thought he would be truly elite at it. Which he's become. If he's even 80% his father, which he very well could be, the Jays have a stud. The best part is, Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. Vlad, Bo, Groshans and Now Martin are the true core. Getting Cavan in there is just gravy. And a high on base to go with the potential of those offensive pieces is scary If he does good this year again, I will believe in him. But from the scouting reports Bo and Vlad will be amazing. Bo was amazing last year and I think he will continue to be the Jays superstar for years to come, Cavan could but Bo and Vlad have a better chance Oh for sure. Bo, in my opinion is the centerpiece. I think he can be an mvp candidate for years to come. Total package. He just flat out hits.. and hits it extremely hard! You wouldn't think he has the power he does, but his swing has insane exit velos. Vlad will be limited to only his hitting being valuable. Though I think he has the potential to hit like Miggy in his prime. Or become a monster power hitter even. But more of a 1B/DH... He will only be at 3B until Groshans makes him move over.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @eatyum said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course. For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP I agree! Last year was very encouraging. I knew he was disciplined in the minors during his breakout, but nobody thought he would be truly elite at it. Which he's become. If he's even 80% his father, which he very well could be, the Jays have a stud. The best part is, Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. Vlad, Bo, Groshans and Now Martin are the true core. Getting Cavan in there is just gravy. And a high on base to go with the potential of those offensive pieces is scary If he does good this year again, I will believe in him. But from the scouting reports Bo and Vlad will be amazing. Bo was amazing last year and I think he will continue to be the Jays superstar for years to come, Cavan could but Bo and Vlad have a better chance
@eatyum said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course. For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP I agree! Last year was very encouraging. I knew he was disciplined in the minors during his breakout, but nobody thought he would be truly elite at it. Which he's become. If he's even 80% his father, which he very well could be, the Jays have a stud. The best part is, Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. Vlad, Bo, Groshans and Now Martin are the true core. Getting Cavan in there is just gravy. And a high on base to go with the potential of those offensive pieces is scary
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course. For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP
@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore. And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course.
@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter. Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan
@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B.. It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter.
@samguenther1987 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season. Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me
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@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season.
@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential
@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling
@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves. Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching
@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it. Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing. Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves.
@Nanthrax_1 said in Predict your teams record here and why: @olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even
@olivegarden2 said in Predict your teams record here and why: Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu.. And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible
Red Sox 32-28. They can beat the Jays and Orioles easily but the Yankees and Rays will give them trouble. As much as I want them to make the playoffs they won’t this year, I just hope they re-sign Mookie
With Sale gone, no Betts, no Price, no fix to the pen, I don't think the Sox will beat the Jays at all. Jays are much better suited, especially with Pearson on no innings count in a 60 game schedule, plus Ryu..
And hate to break it to you, but there is a 0% chance Betts goes back to Boston. He always wanted out, which is why he never entertained re-signing, and Boston already has serious payroll trouble with luxury tax problems and one of the highest "dead money" situations in baseball. If anything, they're going to shed as much as possible
Pearson is questionable with the control and being a rookie, Ryu should be good however. I could see the Sox and Jays even
Questionable with the control?? Please tell me where you have ever read something bad about his control! Please.. I'd love to see it.
Every scouting report says he fills the zone with almost all his offerings, especially his 99-104 mph fastball and slider. His minor league stats show he absolutely throws strikes (2.4 BB/9). There is absolutely nothing indicating this is a thing.
Sure, we have yet to see the Jays blossom, so it's early to say they will overtake the Sox for the foreseeable future, but judging by young talent, and future payroll, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find anyone outside of Boston say the Sox have a better looking future than the Jays.. Sox are a mess.. Jays have the best young nucleus in the sport along with Padres, Rays and Braves.
Jays will be better in the future but this year I think it is even. Sox have a better offense and Jays have better pitching
This may be true, but the Jays offense have a chance to absolutely explode at any time. When you have Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, Jansen as 5/9 of your order, plus Martin and Groshans coming up, you could have growing pains, or you could be the best offense in baseball. That's a huge ceiling
I don’t believe in Biggio yet. Vlad may break out and Bo will be a stud. But we have JD, Devers, the x-man, Vazquez (who did amazing last year), and Benny who might have a bounce back season. Your guys have potential but ours have shown their potential
Don't look past Biggio, he hit for the cycle in his rookie season plus 16 home runs . Not many players can do that in a lifetime let alone a rookie season.
Maybe but I haven’t seen enough and he wasn’t playing amazing in the minors. The average scares me
What Biggio showed in his rookie season, and why everyone in the industry became high on him isn't his power (which he showed already in the minors), his versatility to play all over the field well, or his good defense at 2B..
It was his insane plate discipline and pitch recognition. He almost never swung at a pitch out of the zone, and actually led MLB in it. A rookie who walks 73 times in only 400 AB, and never swings outside of the zone?? That is a very good thing. There isn't many better things to see from a young hitter.
Like I said if he can hit for a high average I will believe in him but it was only 1 year of a prospect I wasn’t so high on and had a low average. He did show me that he has discipline but I believe in Vlad and Bo more than Cavan
Average means nothing when your OBP is near .400.. it's 2020 dude... Not 1986.. nobody cares about AVG anymore.
And yes, so do I.. Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. He's just turning into one. Vlad and Bo are supposed to be the superstars of course.
For me, I care more about plate discipline than average when it comes to young players, and while Cavan strikes out a good bit, the walk rate is really encouraging, I'm a huge fan of his and think he is really underrated just because Bo and Vlad are on the same team. I own Cavan in just about every dynasty baseball league I'm in and look forward to a future of 20/20 seasons with .380+ OBP
I agree! Last year was very encouraging. I knew he was disciplined in the minors during his breakout, but nobody thought he would be truly elite at it. Which he's become. If he's even 80% his father, which he very well could be, the Jays have a stud. The best part is, Cavan wasn't supposed to be a core piece. Vlad, Bo, Groshans and Now Martin are the true core. Getting Cavan in there is just gravy. And a high on base to go with the potential of those offensive pieces is scary
If he does good this year again, I will believe in him. But from the scouting reports Bo and Vlad will be amazing. Bo was amazing last year and I think he will continue to be the Jays superstar for years to come, Cavan could but Bo and Vlad have a better chance
Oh for sure. Bo, in my opinion is the centerpiece. I think he can be an mvp candidate for years to come. Total package. He just flat out hits.. and hits it extremely hard! You wouldn't think he has the power he does, but his swing has insane exit velos.
Vlad will be limited to only his hitting being valuable. Though I think he has the potential to hit like Miggy in his prime. Or become a monster power hitter even. But more of a 1B/DH... He will only be at 3B until Groshans makes him move over.
Miggy huh? That's high praise. Probably the 3 best right hand hitters I have seen (watched baseball since mid 70's) are Miggy, Pujols and Trout.
Also, if you've watched baseball since the mid 70's (me the late 80's), then you forgot Schmidt and Manny. Every bit as good
Oh, I don't think Schmidt is in the Pujols, Miggy, Trout mix. Manny is a cheater and I despise cheaters. Even though it pains me as Brett is my all time favorite, Schmidt is the best 3rd baseman of all time. Little more power and defense over Brett. Brett was a better hitter as far as average and fewer k's.
