Weren't you the one who, last year, complained about the game all year long and swore that you were not buying the game this year?

I still can't believe they accumulated all of the data in beta and probably spent months tweaking hitting and coming up with Perfect/Perfect and then decided to throw out all that work and tweak hitting only a few days after release.

Before Launch:
"We here at SDS worked hard all this offseason to come up with a new hitting dynamic. We even had a beta period to test it and receive feedback from players. We used that telemetry and feedback to make further tweaks in order to make things even better for our release"

2 days after official launch:
"We are going to take a few days worth of telemetry, when everyone is playing on the easiest difficulties, mix that in with some player complaints and abandon all the telemetry we gathered and work we did prior to launch."

@skepple15 said in Showdown is a carnival game:

@mike_ph said in Showdown is a carnival game:

@skepple15 said in Showdown is a carnival game:

https://ibb.co/6vhK9Gy

Supes hard and rigged...

Like what is the point of this? Does everyone on here have to be a massive piece of [censored] person constantly? I also beat the NL east showdown, should I be a massive asshole towards people who havent too? Fucking dorks.

Every day

Showdown is rigged
Showdown is impossible
Showdown is the worst thing this franchise has ever done
Everything I hit in showdown is a line out
SDS doesn’t want me to get X player

There are better ways of dealing with other players frustrations than by simply throwing your successes in their face. That just makes the situation worse.

Here is where I stand as an offline player as of last night

• Completed Starter Conquest
• Complete list 1st Inning Conquest
• Completed US Conquest
• Completed Starter Showdown
• Made Several failed attempts at the 1st inning Showdown
• Did all of the Welcome Moments
• Did all of the first inning Moments (Granderson and Woods)
• Did the Eckersly Evolution moments.
• Did a MTO run up to the World series(have not played the world series as it would be a waste of affinity points)
• Earned the FOTF from my favorite team.
• Played the nine inning CPU games against Cubs and Yankees. (Woods and Granderson)

I am sitting at 205 program points.

There are only a few options open to me to get the final 95 points. Showdown, which I have failed badly at in every attempt so far, and that costs 500 stubs each attempt. Collections, which also cost stubs, but in this case both collections together are more expensive than just buying the three bosses outright. Mindlessly grinding for another 30 hours or so in the last 9 days of the 1st Inning Program.

Basically the goal of 300 stars still seems so far away and the options to get there seem so unappealing (and just not fun) that it has killed a bit of my desire to keep playing.

So I have been slowly picking up Cardinal players but out of the more expensive ones I had only picked up Flaherty and Goldschmidt, passing on Miller because over 3,000 stubs for a low gold reliever, even a lefty seemed a bit too much.

Today, I earned my first pack for 9 logins (thanks double dailies) and low and behold the last card is a gold card. I flip that sucker and sure enough, it is Miller! Score.

I slot him in to my lineup and go play a stronghold game in conquest against the White Sox on veteren difficulty, beating them 7-0. I get to the post screen reward and I am shocked to see a diamond card listed there. It is only the second time in my years of playing that I remember seeing that. I decide to remove the cards one at a time to see how long the game was going to tease me but when I get down to 2 cards the diamond is still there. I remove the last card and I am shocked that I earned the diamond.

Welcome to the team Ronald Acuna Jr

I expect my luck is done for the year.

@nflman2033 said in Night and day differences:

The problem is that Showdown is an all offensive mode, I was failing before the patch, they made hitting more difficult when people were struggling with an all offensive mode?? Not sure the logic there.

There is no logic. It was a knee [censored] reaction to some perceived issue before the general players, who have only had the game for 2 days, had even had a chance to have their input added to the data.

EDIT Wow their filter is aggressive

1. Prestige Diamonds can only be earned by grinding stats online
2. If you collect a card then that card is completely unsellable. No quick selling.
3. Three Batter minimum applies in BR (I don't play BR and this seems extreme even to me)

Overall, I loved all the new stuff and it pushed me forward to pre-order. The first one is really the only one that kind of tilted me a little.

@Some_Schmuck_22 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

If you are just playing offline, you don't really need the blood diamond version of a card. You do after all get to select the difficulty you want to play at most of the time.

It is not about need. Sure I could set the difficulty to rookie and beat the CPU with a bunch of bronze and commons but that is not fun. I get the same satisfaction of pulling or earning a diamond that any online player would get.

At the end of the day we all pay the same admission price.

Now, I realize that the difference between the original diamond and the prestige diamond will probably be minimal and I am sure I would not want to try and grind them all. But if there is, for example, a Red Diamond Pujols card it sure would be nice as a Cardinals fan to be able to get it in some way.

@stlcaesar said in Starting Pitcher Roulette:

I think once you pick your #1, you should be freezed out from picking that #1 until the full rotation is used. Just like the real game

Or you could simply impose that limitation on yourself and not ask them to impose it for everyone.

5-6 hours?
About 4 hours for games?

That is 8 minutes per game. That seems way low so please share your secret.

I usually double those numbers, but I play the games out. My goal is usually not to go through the games as fast as possible.

@formallyforearms said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@yankblan said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

Why would they make more offline games for DD? The programs are there so you grind your stubs/rewards if you don’t want to shell real money, so that you can build a team towards competitive online play. Never see those arguments for offline in other EA UT games. Weird.

I've seen many FIFA UT offline players complain that they are "forced" to play online to complete the weekly challenges to get rewards.

Players are going to complain (whether they are offline/online only) regardless. Everyone seems to believe they should have the same opportunities to get all the cards that other players do. It's the fear of missing out, or belief that you are being targeted or screwed over. Its human nature.

I have never believed that I am owed anything. I'm significantly older than the vast majority of players on this forum, so I definitely know better. Even now am simply voicing my concerns over what I see as a pretty dramatic shift from MLB 19 to 20 in regards to earning Program Points as an offline player.

If you want to call that entitlement then go right ahead.

@genopolanco said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@TheHungryHole said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

To improve your squad to only play the CPU? Why not go into Franchise, put the cards you’re grinding for on your team, and play as much as you want?”"

Do we need those players to beat the CPU? No.

Is it still fun to collect the players and build a squad of legends? Yes.
Is it more to play and bat with the likes of Mickey Mantle or bring in Dennis Eckersly for a save rather than mediocre live series players? Yes.

But if you’re not play vs CPU games then when are you even using them? Occasionally conquest? Moments/showdowns are usually with teams made for you.

That is a whole other issue that has been brought up multiple times. Yes, I use the team for all of the conquest maps and I will usually run the main conquest map multiple times (just not multiple times in the same inning program)

But most offline players have lamented that there needs to be another offline mode to use your own DD team. Some of us were even hoping that we could use Leagues and simply set the other teams to CPU controlled but obviously that is not an option.

I have often voiced my opinion that the Main Conquest map should get refreshed rewards as often as events or at least give us different stages. Right now, after you complete it once the only reward you get for investing that 12 hours a second time is a 10 pack bundle and I think we know how those are, more time than not, garbage.

@TheHungryHole said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

To improve your squad to only play the CPU? Why not go into Franchise, put the cards you’re grinding for on your team, and play as much as you want?”"

Do we need those players to beat the CPU? No.

Is it still fun to collect the players and build a squad of legends? Yes.
Is it more to play and bat with the likes of Mickey Mantle or bring in Dennis Eckersly for a save rather than mediocre live series players? Yes.

@dap1234567890 said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

I play offline and have not done showdown and I'm just about at 500 stars.

And according to your profile you have done so by averaging 9 hours every day since early release. That is just not realistic for most players.

@Psycho__Kinetic said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@DirtySixThirty91 said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

Any game you play with your DD team even against the cpu counts towards stars.

I realize that but it feels like meaningless grinding though and meaningless grinding for 20-30 more hours is not appealing at all.

Dont know how long it will take; but you could replay the US Conquest Map and not only play the strongholds, but play the Steal Fans games.

You're still looking at 20-30 more hours. You, at best, earn 1 program star per 3 inning game. You can play 3 to 4 games an hour. So 10 hours for 30 to 40 points.

@genopolanco said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

For real though. This is just a complaint post because OP wants to just play offline and not even vs CPU.

How is completing all three Conquest maps. Playing MTO. Completing Granderson and Woods programs not playing against the CPU?

@Ikasnu said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Ikasnu said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Speedy44 said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

You do realize that showdown is basically free and completely offline mode if u want to complain bf you can’t get 300 stars then maybe yup should do the [censored] showdown

I have attempted the Showdown. I have failed miserably. Chances are I will attempt it even more times before the first inning is complete. But if I still can't beat it then those 70 points don't help at all.

That sounds like a personal problem to me and it's not up to SDS to hand you more options (since imo there are already plenty). Complete the daily rewards and play the game and earn more.

No, it is not required that they hand my ways to earn points but don't you think that it is in their best interest to keep me, and other players like me, interested and motivated to keep playing as ling as possible.

That's where "just playing the game" comes in. Too many people are complaining about the lack of things to do when the game is literally right in front of you. Also as I mentioned above, patience, there will be a 3rd set of missions coming, probably this week tbh.

I hope you are right about more missions. The calendar does not show another player mission. I hope that they just failed to mention it.

I don't expect any stand alone missions as there is not even a heading for them in the inning program. Looks like they will all be tied to programs.

@Ikasnu said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Dolenz said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

@Speedy44 said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

You do realize that showdown is basically free and completely offline mode if u want to complain bf you can’t get 300 stars then maybe yup should do the [censored] showdown

I have attempted the Showdown. I have failed miserably. Chances are I will attempt it even more times before the first inning is complete. But if I still can't beat it then those 70 points don't help at all.

That sounds like a personal problem to me and it's not up to SDS to hand you more options (since imo there are already plenty). Complete the daily rewards and play the game and earn more.

No, it is not required that they hand my ways to earn points but don't you think that it is in their best interest to keep me, and other players like me, interested and motivated to keep playing as ling as possible.

@the_dragon1912 said in Offline DD - No path to 300 without Showdown or expensive collections is killing my desire to continue.:

Yeah its a tad less stars

Define "a tad"

Showdown is all or nothing and is 70 points.
Last year 1st inning had over 160 points and you could pick and choose which ones you wanted to do.