I wonder how much less complaining about Showdown there would be if there were an actually tolerable way of getting TA points with our DD card collections. The innings grind stinks on ice.

I only caught a tiny part of the stream, but I did see them talking about the prestige diamonds and how they were using them to respond to the requests for the return of some of the stat grinds. Except that in my experience, 95+% of the people asking for stat grinds were offline players looking for more to do than just play Conquest over and over.

As someone looking for better things to do with my DD collection without having to play H2H, was there anything new in this stream?

I want to play with my DD collection. Nothing else. I don't want to play with a drafted squad or with live MLB teams. And there's a big limitation with everything I can do with my collection - Conquest is 3-inning road games only, Play vs. CPU is aimless, and singleplayer Custom Leagues require exploiting a loophole, don't count as DD for the purpose of missions, and offer only home games.

Custom Leagues without the mentioned problems would be pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.

@NicholasHowardT5 said in Moments in The Show:

They haven’t shown the DD screens ? And the moments were 100 times better than playing with one player or team for 500 innings I can’t believe some of y’all actually like the old way better.

As I recall, ag1982 leans heavily toward playing offline. I'm the same way.

The Missions of 17 and 18 were at least interesting objectives that we could accomplish organically in the course of games. I understand how online players would much favour the XP rewards path + Moments, but us offline players were left with so little to do it wasn't worth it. Moments are walled-off objectives that were unfulfilling. Conquest is nothing but three-inning road games. Without the interesting and challenging missions, there's no entertainment to be had from Play vs. CPU.

@Psycho__Kinetic said in Lacking content.:

Play vs CPU

Make it a season mode and I'd enjoy it. As it is, Play vs. CPU is just meaningless individual games.

It looks like there's the ability to do the Evolution programs (the new rookie-to-prime) offline, but that's a small thing. Still no meaningful 9-inning single-player DD games with your collection.

@yankblan said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

I mean, can’t you play a franchise using “add Legend to the FA pool” option?

It's not just about being able to play with the legends; a huge part of it (for me, at least) is the journey of building and improving my team by collecting cards, which I find much more interesting and entertaining than being a GM in Franchise.

Dear SDS,

Build on what you started with Custom Leagues. Let us play a single-player Custom League without having to exploit a loophole and have it count as DD for the purpose of missions.

Alternatively, let us play a proper 162-game season with our DD team replacing the MLB team of our choice, and based on how much success we have, award team affinity for the team we replaced. Increase rewards for keeping our team within roster restrictions BR-style as an optional salary cap mode.

A huge part of DD is the card collection, but there's so little that can be done with it in singleplayer. I've been wanting more for years, but they don't seem to care.

@iTzPSUNation said in I'm out not worth the time anymore:

As an offline player, you are nuts. Between moments, showdown, conquest, and MTO being impactful towards getting cards there is a ton of offline content. Adios.

Not content that actually uses our card collections. Conquest is all there is. Everything else is meaningless and uninteresting.

They genuinely don't care about singleplayer DD. If they did, they would have done something about the abysmal list of uses for our card collections by now. I don't personally care about prestige cards, I just want meaningful 9-inning games to play.

@eatyum said in Where are all the Vet's?:

Idk, to me there seems to be more offline content.
There are evolution players. (Yes some online missions, but the majority of any evolution is offline stuff).
Team Affinity is way more relevant for offline, with stuff like showdowns and moments tied to it.
I have reasons to occasionally do Play vs CPU to accomplish things like player evolution.
You have player programs, which combines moments, stats, and play vs cpu (Again, some online moments stats, but majority is offline)
Conquest maps are decent, especially compared to this time last year, we didn't see things like prospect packs early on.
The only thing really missing to make offline the ultimate experience is being able to prestige players.
Imo 2020 offline > 2019 offline

Single-player DD in MLB 20 is unspeakably bad, just as it was in 19. There's a major disparity between the list of things you can do in singleplayer to get cards, and the list of things you can do with those cards. The latter list is simply pathetic.

I thought they had turned a corner in providing things to do in singleplayer with the stat missions from the last inning program in 19, but I was obviously wrong. They didn't add any kind of meaningful new mode to play proper 9-inning games with our teams, they haven't put out any moments that use our teams, and they haven't spackled over that hole with a decent set of repeatable set of missions that can be done in play vs. CPU. Same as last year, the only repeatable missions are the innings ones for TA points, and those are background tasks with not near enough interesting foreground tasks.

I can't help but come to the conclusion that they genuinely don't care about DD being good outside of multiplayer.

Extra Innings, as in the mode in which you play against other players' DD teams, does not count toward TA innings or any other mission.

Extra innings, as in the tenth inning or later, do not count toward TA innings or any other mission, not even in modes where innings 1-9 do count.

I wonder how much less complaining about Showdown there would be if there were an actually tolerable way of getting TA points with our DD card collections. The innings grind stinks on ice.

Hold R3 while the ball is in play to keep both it and your player in view.

If they can give it the option of nine-inning games and home games, I'd be for it. Otherwise, not interested.

I'm perfectly OK with SDS fixing the MTO points awarded. What I'd much rather have is a better way to get Team Affinity for using my DD card collection, since the innings grind might as well not exist. It's painfully slow unless we compromise our lineups with lots of cards from the same team, and just about no one wants to do that. We've got other cards we want to use.

@CajunShooter said in I'm out not worth the time anymore:

And I won't understand the offline community complaining about a mainly online competitive mode.

In my case it's because DD has an interesting, entertaining way of acquiring and improving my team that appeals far more to me than being a GM in franchise mode.

@iTzPSUNation said in I'm out not worth the time anymore:

As an offline player, you are nuts. Between moments, showdown, conquest, and MTO being impactful towards getting cards there is a ton of offline content. Adios.

Not content that actually uses our card collections. Conquest is all there is. Everything else is meaningless and uninteresting.

@bonion said in New Headliner = Ozzie Smith:

What yr was Ozzie 1st introduced to DD? If I recall he was decent but haven’t had any experience w him past 2 years

He's been in DD since 2015.